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RE: Blood Ravens Page Numbers


Thanks for your recent edit to the Blood Ravens page. However, your recent edit of the page number concerning the possible connection between the Blood Ravens and the Thousand Sons Legion is incorrect. I too, possess a digital copy of A Thousand Sons novel as well. You indicate that the page number is 430, which would be impossible, as the story is only 264 pages long! Unless your edition is extremely small print, the page number you indicated would be impossible. Please stop making counter-productive edits to this page, as the page number has already been checked and re-checked. Thanks!

Algrim Whitefang (talk) Associate, Administrator,10:46, September 20, 2013

My copy is paper back format 558 pages. If there is a difference between the digital and print then perhaps a notation should be made.

Product Details

  • Series: Horus Heresy
  • Mass Market Paperback: 560 pages
  • Publisher: Games Workshop (February 23, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1844168093
  • ISBN-13: 978-1844168095
  • Product Dimensions: 1.4 x 4.1 x 6.5 inches Arrancar79 (talk) 18:00, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

OK, let me make this real clear. When digital editions are used, as Arrancar rightly pointed out, and the page numbers are not indicated on the pages of the digital text that correspond to the page numbers of the hardcopy, there will be different page numbers depending on the reader program used, the quality of the copy, etc. If someone can get the page number of the passage in question in the HARD COPY, then that is the correct page number for the cite. However, if the only copies available to us are digital copies, then we will use the page number of the Admin's copy if page numbers are used at all.

As we deal largely in digital sources, this is a problem that will continually recur. However, as the only solution is to wait for a hard copy of each source to show up before the information is cited, and I am in no way willing to do that, we will go with the less precise cite. In most cases this is not a problem as the page numbers of the hard copy are also printed in the digital copy, as with most of the Codexes, but for novels and the new Digital Editions, this will be a problem. That is why, in the past, we did not cite page numbers for novels. I would suggest when using digital novels as sources, the best solution may also be to simply cite only the chapter of the novel where the information at issue appears. Either way is fine. We do the best we can with what we have. Montonius (talk) 02:08, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

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