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  • there is no way that the Emperor is still alive. Why? Because to Start he was mortally wounded in the final battle against Horus, then being put on a chair for 10,000 years is almost impossible for a regular human, yeah the Emperor didn't have the enhancement of a space marine. No matter what he isn't alive.

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    • DId you actually read what it says?

      Point 1: the Emperor is an immortal being created by the death of over a 1000 psykers in the pre-AD era( so he isn't a normal human being)

      point 2: the golden throne also exists as life support system

      Point 3: the astro Mechanicum (forgive my mispelling) is the the psychic manifestation of the emperor's will if he dies then its gone and the Imperium will be fractured into isolated systems and planets

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    • Please read the "Emperor of Mankind" page on this Wikia before posting a thread containing such ridiculousness such as the Emperor being a "Normal Human".

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    • HERESSY!!!!!

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    • -_- the hell

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    • MasterofAgony693 wrote:
      Please read the "Emperor of Mankind" page on this Wikia before posting a thread containing such ridiculousness such as the Emperor being a "Normal Human".

      sry meant astronomicon* got confused

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    • I see well I guess it happens

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    • the emperor is nor alive nor truly dead he is really to put it simply he is "inbetween" but his death is near but another savior shall be born...

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    • It says at the top of the page "The Emperor chose to sacrifice His immortal life at the end of the Horus Heresy in the service and protection of Mankind." So he is dead.

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    • No, his body is technically dead in that sense, but his mind is still active because it is the thing powering the astromican. Also he is alive because remember the golden throne is a life support system and is still working even though the emperor's body is decaying. 

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    • exactly my point as I made lol good on you imperial fist

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    • I don't want to be rude to anyone and i apologies if anyone finds this offensive but

      Sometimes its not even worth arguing. :)

      If i were in your place i would do some reading about things you said and tryed to understand the matter not just take it like its writen wiki contributor. :) 

      Peace :D

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    • goodpoint lol

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    • agreed

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    • He's a vegetable. Period.

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    • Why hold on so hard on 2k concept of life if you read something called 40k? 

      You can call Emperor a vegetable, but his soul can guide starships into something so massive and ominous like the warp. At the same time, you can slam dunk with one hand playing basket, but you would count less than a dead ant in 40K.

      Considering to be "alive" the mere use of your body is absolutely laughable.

      There are Space Marines with body wounds even worse than the Emperor ones, but if you meet one of them interred in a dreadnought i will strongly suggest you not to call him a "vegetable".

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    • well in ways the emperor physically is a vegetable but only physically, he hasn't moved or so I haven't heard of him moving besides his life support tech but in the mental state he is very much active as per what attank said about guiding ships an stuff.

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    • Too bad he can't be put into a Dreadnought.

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    • He may be a perpetual...

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    • Well... like Neithan said, before being put on the Golden Throne, the Emperor was 39,000 years old. I think that this is a pretty strong evidence that the Emperor is a Perpetual.

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    • Then if he was a perpetual shouldn't he have healed, because his son Vulkan is a perpetual fell from orbit and survived even though he was only charred remains. 

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    • To each his own.

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    • Why should he heal? The Emperor fought Horus, while the corrupted Primarch was possessed by the Chaos Gods. The damage that the Chaos Gods did to the Emperor is incurable (this is just a theory, yet very reasonable and strong one).

      The second thing is that the Emperor used almost all of his strength to erase Horus from existence, while at the same time he was empowering the Astronomican (can you imagine how powerful the Emperor is if he could do both of those things at once?!).

      So in the end, the Emperor was on the brink of death. Weak from his battle with Horus and badly wounded (and when I say that he was badly wounded, I mean that Horus had his most inner organs removed!).

      In this state the Emperor was put on the Golden Throne. Again, why would he be able to heal from this kind of battle? Maybe 10,000 is not enough for him to heal from that battle? Maybe a great portion of his strength is trapped in the Warp? 

      I can't really tell you a real answer, but there is a strong possibility that the Emperor is a Perpetual, and his thousands years of pre-ascension is enough proof for me to believe that he is a Perpetual, while this is also a proof that no one can ignore.

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    • whats 'perpetual'? and yeah I agree really its something about chaos strikes on human flesh that makes healing an stuff basically impossible

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    • Where's a magical Medkit when ya need one?

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    • lol if only that were logical in 40k

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    • General patton 101 wrote:
      whats 'perpetual'? and yeah I agree really its something about chaos strikes on human flesh that makes healing an stuff basically impossible

      It means either Never ending/changing or occuring repeatedly; so frequent as to seem endless and uninterupted.

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    • oh ok fair enough I see how he is perpetual, thanks(:

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    • The Golden Throne is likely some kind of stasis device that slows down time. The Emperor's body is decaying because the passage of time can't be stopped completely. The injuries he recieved during his battle with Horus were said to be fatal, which means he will die from them eventually, even if he remains in the Golden Throne, because his body will continue to decay due to the passage of time. The Golden Throne has been working constantly for so long that it's failing, meaning the Emperor's body will likely begin to decay at an accelerated rate. Short of healing him, there's nothing that can be done to prevent his death. Had the Golden Throne remained operational, he could have survived for tens of thousand of years, depending on how the stasis works and how fast time is passing for his body. What would seem like a minute or so for the his ruined body is in reality ten thousand years thanks to the Golden Throne, assuming I'm right regarding how it works.

      The Emperor's mind is not affected by the stasis because it exists in the Warp alongside his soul, battling the Choas Gods and powering the Astronomicon. The Astronomicon is beginning to fail, however, due to the continued decay of the Emperor's body. This means the psykers that are sacrificed to keep it and the Emperor going are likely not helping anymore, because they are too few in number or too weak to be of use. As the Emperor's body decays, he will need more and more psykers to sustian him, and thus the Astronomicon. The failure of the Astronomicon has already affected the outer regions of the galaxy, which can no longer rely on the Emperor's mental signal to guide them through the Warp. Eventually, the Emperor will die, and the Astronomicon will fail completely, sending the Imperium into the Age of Strife 2.0, but probably much worse.

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    • well he wont decay really if the imperium grows some balls an inherits new better tech and its possible to regenerate him or atleast keep him alive longer if they had said new tech, but nooo the mechanicus says no lol

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    • People. You're being trolled. Stop feeding the damn thing.

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    • Dreadnoughts are the most metal thing in existence.

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    • I've been reading (if this is canon or not) The emperor will die soon near the end of the 41 or sooner. But if he dies he has sons of thousands or even millions that don't even know of their heritage. This so called "Sensei" is seemed out and protected by this Illuminati that are even higher ranks than the inquisition.

      So.. They can be either sacrifaced. Or even better replace their farther and become the new Emperor of Mankind and lead another Great Crusade against the foes of the Imperium. And possibly be as physically and mentally strong as his father before him.

      So there won't be The age of strife and there won't be any astronomic on faliures (until the new Emperor knows how to power the astronomicon for a few years) and the Spirit of the Old emperor into the new emperor. And then the Imperium of man will live on forever. Might be a possibility that it will be scared due to the tyranids approaching (so yeah canon or not our favorite fantasy will last for generations).

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    • I don't think anything will really change and the emperor won't die at the end of the 41st millenium. Lexicanum on the Golden Throne page has some info taken straight out of the Adeptus Mechanicus Codex, about the current malfunctions of the golden throne:

      Faced with this cataclysmic scenario, the Tech-Priests become desperate and ally with a faction of Xanthite Inquisitors. Launching an expedition into the Webway, the Tech-Priest and Inquisition forces battle through Harlequins and Daemons alike before reaching Commorragh. There, a dark bargain is struck

      Source: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Golden_Throne#Malfunction and the same thing is written in the Adeptus Mechanicus Codex (and no further explanation there either)

      So unless the annoying space elves don't hold up their end of the bargain (or do it not as the imperium expects it) I don't really see anything changing much and GW will keep the status quo (only somewhat modified) :P

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    • 180.95.18.24 wrote:
      I've been reading (if this is canon or not) The emperor will die soon near the end of the 41 or sooner. But if he dies he has sons of thousands or even millions that don't even know of their heritage. This so called "Sensei" is seemed out and protected by this Illuminati that are even higher ranks than the inquisition.

      So.. They can be either sacrifaced. Or even better replace their farther and become the new Emperor of Mankind and lead another Great Crusade against the foes of the Imperium. And possibly be as physically and mentally strong as his father before him.

      So there won't be The age of strife and there won't be any astronomic on faliures (until the new Emperor knows how to power the astronomicon for a few years) and the Spirit of the Old emperor into the new emperor. And then the Imperium of man will live on forever. Might be a possibility that it will be scared due to the tyranids approaching (so yeah canon or not our favorite fantasy will last for generations).

      Yeah, the Star Child is from old fluff. GW put the kibosh on that a while ago, although still leaving similar possibilities out there. 

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    • you also forgetting the fact when or if he dies all hell will break loose? or maybe he will destroy chaos in his new god form since he wont have limitations of an physical body to hold him back. we never know.

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    • Supahbadmarine wrote:
      People. You're being trolled. Stop feeding the damn thing.

      What are you referring to? My post about how I think the Golden Throne works?

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    • I have to Agree with General patton 101, he is in complete agony while being hooked to that throne. So by dying he will be released and even more powerful. Who really knows at this point, so many different theories are flotting around about him and the last day's it is hard to tell hahaha, I have been around the War Hammer universe since 1990, so I would like to see this keep going. But unless some kind of end for the Emperor is done, all that can be talked about is different scenario's. The One constant though is what the Cabal predicted, if he won the battle during the Hersay, than man kind would slip into Stagnation, which it has BIG time. A lot has been lost and the Mech idiots refuse to further the Technology of Man Kind.

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    • well somebody agrees with me that's new lol and the cabal? arnt they dark elder?

      and yes.. 'mech' idiots are a big degree of the imperiums losses.

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    • The Golden throne is a Hybrid of life support/Statis field.  The Emperor will absolutely never die while attached to the throne.

      The Emperor being bound to the throne mean's nothing, his conciousness is fragmented and split dozens of times.  This is outlined in Inquisition wars.  His mind is fragmented so he can devote his attention to many things.

      I personally believe the Emperor is a perpetual like Vulcan, but if he died momentarily the webway he was constructing on Terra would collapse and the warp would burst forth from this Gate that he had created and annihilate Terra, possibly even the sol system.

      Plus there is the concept that he is the only thing that is holding Chaos at bay in General, Fleets would be lost without the Astronomican. 

      Basically if he died, even for a few minutes....he would lose everything.

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    • 73.132.146.78 wrote:
      The Golden throne is a Hybrid of life support/Statis field.  The Emperor will absolutely never die while attached to the throne.

      The Emperor being bound to the throne mean's nothing, his conciousness is fragmented and split dozens of times.  This is outlined in Inquisition wars.  His mind is fragmented so he can devote his attention to many things.

      I personally believe the Emperor is a perpetual like Vulcan, but if he died momentarily the webway he was constructing on Terra would collapse and the warp would burst forth from this Gate that he had created and annihilate Terra, possibly even the sol system.

      Plus there is the concept that he is the only thing that is holding Chaos at bay in General, Fleets would be lost without the Astronomican. 

      Basically if he died, even for a few minutes....he would lose everything.


      Just something to think about. In his final instructions, before his interement in the Golden Throne, the Emperor mentions himself that he would never walk amongst [men] again BUT his psychic powers would return with time.

      That tells me that his body is not actually needed for him to retain his psychic consciousness, powers or prowess.

      Then again, it's all speculation.

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