Just to clarify is the Helbrute a variant of Chaos Dreadnought, or is it simply what GW has decided to rename Chaos Dreadnoughts in the 6th edition? Frankly the descriptions of the two are practically identical. I am your master! At your service. Supahbadmarine (talk) 22:24, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

It appears GW has decided to rename Chaos Dreadnoughts as there are no longer any, only Hellbrutes.

Shas'o'Kais (talk) 22:47, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Tabletop wise the Helbrute replaces the Chaos Dreadnought, fluff wise the Helbrute is a mutated Chaos Dreadnought and Chaos Dreadnoughts still exist fluff wise.

Vforvendetta1 (talk) 00:06, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

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