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A question about Horus on the planet Davin where he succumbed to Chaos. If you read the article on Erebus, the chaplain (?) of the Word Bearers, it states Erebus was called in to heal Horus of a wound (possibly on Davin) which is where Erebus implanted the seed of Chaos. I don't have the old books so cannot verify either event but this article could be improved if the Erebus event is collated with the Davin trip.[[User:Corioa|Corioa]] 06:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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from black legion
== Quotation from Horus Heresy article relating to the Davin episode in this article. ==
 
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during the escape from the eye to start tzhe first blackj crusade
   
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Promise of Absolution : unknown class, complement of almost 2000 legionaries, several tens of thousands of mortals beastment etc.. lost with all hands.
I've tracked it down. The only ambiguity is whether the Black Legion article is referring to the first or second time Horus sojourned on Davin.
 
   
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Scarred Crown - troop transport: destroyed with all hands by the fleet of taegus daravek lord of hosts
"It was on the moon of the world of Davin that Horus's fate was sealed. This was the second time his Legion had been posted to this world; after the previous visit sixty years earlier the Luna Wolves had adopted the native Davinite institution of warrior lodges. Though these lodges had begun as simple fraternities of warriors, their secretive nature handed Lorgar, the Primarch of the Word Bearers Legion, and his First Chaplain Erebus, the tool they needed to manipulate Horus. Lorgar and his Word Bearers came from a world of religious fanaticism and had long worshiped the Emperor as a god. The Word Bearers had sought to spread their Cult of the Emperor to every world they added to the Imperium. But the Emperor disliked organized religion, blaming it for much of the darkness that had plagued humanity's history. The Emperor openly refuted his alleged divinity and banned religious worship in his empire, and demanded that his subjects accept 'Imperial Truth'-- that science and logic alone presented the tools to create a better human future.
 
Lorgar did not suffer the Emperor's reprimand well. Angered and wounded that the Emperor would not accept his devotion, Lorgar turned instead to the Ruinous Powers of the Warp - who were all too willing to accept the devotion of one of humanity's Primarchs. Before long the Word Bearers Legion had been almost entirely corrupted by the Chaos Gods, and Lorgar and his First Chaplain were tasked by the Chaos Gods with corrupting all of their fellow Space Marines--starting with the greatest of them all, the Warmaster Horus.
 
On Davin's moon, which had been corrupted by the forces of the Chaos God Nurgle, Horus was poisoned by an anathame stolen from the Interex by Erebus and gifted to the Chaos-corrupted form of the Imperial Army commander (Eugen Temba) the Warmaster had left behind to govern Davin sixty years before. The potent living metal of the blade left Horus with a bleeding wound in his shoulder that his legion's apothecaries could not heal. Seeing his chance to further the designs of Chaos, Erebus persuaded the Sons of Horus's warrior lodge to allow a group of Davinite shamans, known as the "Serpent Lodge" located on the surface of Davin at their temple called Delphos - Chaos cultists all - to heal him.
 
During the rituals, Horus's spirit was transferred into the Warp. There, he bore witness to a nightmare vision of the future. He saw the Imperium as a repressive, violent theocracy, where the Emperor and his Primarchs (but not Horus) were worshiped as gods by the masses(Ironically,this is exactly what happened after his death}. The Chaos Gods portrayed themselves as victims of the Emperor's psychic might, and claimed that they had no interest in the material world. Magnus The Red, Primarch of the Thousand Sons legion, had also traveled to the warp via sorcery to try and stop Horus from turning to Chaos. Magnus explained that his vision was only a possible future, but one that Horus alone could prevent. Horus, already jealous and resentful of the Emperor, proved all too receptive to the Ruinous Powers' false vision. The Chaos Gods' pact with Horus was simple: "Give us the Emperor and we will give you the galaxy". Horus accepted the Chaos gods' offer. They healed his grievous wound and charged him with the powers of the Warp. Renouncing his oath to the Emperor, Horus led his Legion into worship of the myriad Chaos Gods. He then sought to turn many of his fellow Primarchs to Chaos, and succeeded with Angron of the World Eaters, Fulgrim of the Emperor's Children and Mortarion of the Death Guard, who were first of many to follow, along with many regiments of the Imperial Army and several Titan Legions." 06:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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Oath of Knives cruiser destroyed by the attack of taegus daravek
== Compare the above with this account of Davin in the Black Legion article on Horus' fall ==
 
   
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skies of wroth - frigate present during 1st black crusade[[User:Neithan02|Neithan02]] ([[User talk:Neithan02|talk]]) 10:24, March 2, 2019 (UTC)
"Before he could return to Terra to be officially invested with his new title, Horus apparently fell ill on a small feral world called Davin. During his convalescence, he took part in the induction ceremony of a warrior lodge on the planet. This was the Primarch's well-tried practice to develop ties with local populations - feral natives were more easily recruited into the Imperial fold when the 'Warriors from the Stars' had become brothers. However, this time was different. In the days that followed, Horus's officers detected a change in his character. It is now presumed that the warrior lodge was in fact a Chaos coven, which somehow managed to ensnare the Warmaster.
 
The Primarch proceeded to introduce similar 'warrior lodges' into his own Legion, and then others under his command. Horus's fealty had changed; his Legion believe that he was actually possessed by a Daemon. Whether or not this is true, it is certain that he was now allied body and soul to the powers of Chaos, and he had a new vision for the Imperium with himself at its head."
 
 
== So What's it all Mean? ==
 
 
I really don't know if this return to Terra is the first or second time Horus went to Davin. Also, would he have taken part in an induction ceremony when ill (or wounded as in 'Erebus') if the Davinite practice of warrior lodges was taken into the Sons of Horus "sixty years earlier" (Erebus) before the visit and Horus' fall. If anyone cares with the books to resolve this ambiguity...[[User:Corioa|Corioa]] 06:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== The Sons of Horus ==
 
 
The Emperor didn't rename the Legion he recommended it. Horus in the end was the one that decided to change the name. Its in the Horus heresy books.
 
 
And Horus didn't introduce the lodges to the legion Erebus did.
 

Latest revision as of 10:24, 2 March 2019

fleet assets

from black legion during the escape from the eye to start tzhe first blackj crusade

Promise of Absolution : unknown class, complement of almost 2000 legionaries, several tens of thousands of mortals beastment etc.. lost with all hands.

Scarred Crown - troop transport: destroyed with all hands by the fleet of taegus daravek lord of hosts

Oath of Knives cruiser destroyed by the attack of taegus daravek

skies of wroth - frigate present during 1st black crusadeNeithan02 (talk) 10:24, March 2, 2019 (UTC)