Some of that stuff for thwe angry marines was classic! Same with Ulgrungamazkez Or whatever the hck his name is. I couldn't even keep a straight face with the angry marine quote about his foot breaking the sound barrier! You should write sketches on youtube.
The matter has been resolved. I have been informed the other wiki will be deleted by agreement of all concerned. With full respect, I disagree with the sentiments expressed by you and others, and there was zero justification for an unethical response. I do not find the new policy draconian, I find it fair when this wiki's stated difference from standard guidelines have been made clear and steps have been taken to make it even clearer for all new users. Past mistakes were made due to rapid growth and an insufficient Admin staff, as I have repeated elsewhere, and I take full responsibility for them and have moved to correct them. Beyond that we will agree to disagree. I would suggest you read the additions to the Important Links as to Project Purpose on the main page for a full explanation of our position on the matter, which may prevent a future clash of expectations, and may influence your decision to contribute or not. I probably will not be commenting any further on the matter. Thanks.
Don't get me wrong Montonius. I am not playing the revolutionary here, and I am not making any calls to action regarding your policies. I was merely offering my two cents on the matter. I understand where both you and the folks that made grimdark were coming from.
That's all I ask. But Admins here are leaders, not facilitators. This is the clash of expectations that produced the problem, which is understandable, in additon to my own mistakes as the workload grew overwhelming. I have taken steps to ensure that every new user will know what to expect, and they can choose to contribute or not. My point was that many of the concerns had been dealt with from the moment the issue was raised. But instead of talking about it, we were subjected to a torrent of personal abuse and harassment, including by people only seeking to troll for trolling's sake. The copying of the wiki was outright unethical and there was no excuse for stealing other people's work who were not part of the problem and injuring them because of a disagreement with me. But that's it. The issue was resolved and I am the wiser for it. Time to move on.
That's very true, and I recognize the steps you have taken to improve the site, and make everything run smoothely. My point was that many view the site as being very User unfriendly. Given the number of passionate 40k fans that want to get involved it is understandable that many would feel alienated by the strict policies regarding contribution. Regardless the issue has already been solved, and I wasn't trying get in on the dispute in the first place. I was merely offering observation.
Please get rid of the Ecclesiarchy category you created, we already have one called Adeptus Ministorum. To prevent duplication, check the drop down menus for all alternative possibilities for categories before creating new ones, or check with me first. Thanks for your effort.
Actually I didn't technically create it. It was already in place, having had a few articles within it. I only finalized the creation in order to categorize it. Regardless thank you of informing me about the Adeptus Ministorum category. I'll fix everything right away.
Do not ever go behind my back like that RAD. You have a problem with the wiki's current activities or direction you bring it up with me. I am very aware of the Necrons' need for an update to 5th Edition and I did not ignore you in any way; I gave you an answer you do not agree with and did not like. There is a difference. There are other priorities more pressing for this wiki's health. I do not want other users adding things to a page that I will have to rip apart later so that it can be brought up to the same standards of quality that we are now seeking to bring to all areas of this wiki. I simply do not have the resources or the editors to deploy on the Necrons at this moment as we are spending all our resources on areas that have priority. I know you want this done; I want it done. But this wiki is dedicated to quality above all and that means if it takes extra time to get it right, it takes extra time. I am sure the Lexicanum has updated their Necron page with the new information, so Warhammer fans certainly have a source of information available to them for now. We bring a unique level of detail to our vision of this wiki and that means we focus our resources on one area at a time. We have only just got the Space Marines even close to where I want them after almost 2 years of work, and each faction will get the same treatment in turn. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Thanks.
I feel that I needed to clarify that I was not trying to get Algrim to work on the page without your consent. I was hoping that he could convince you of the urgency of updating the Necrons, which I have failed to do. My concerns with the Necrons comes from the fact that I massive amount of the background is now invalid. With the exception of the army list the whole page is essentially in disrepair. This is one of the major factions, and as a result of the massive changes the site is not up to date with it. You make a good point about Lexicanum, but the state of other sources of 40k background should not be the concern of this dispute. However having said all of this I realize that speaking to another User about this was impolite on my part, and I assure you that it will not happen again. I would however like to reiterate that I belive that getting the basic background for the Necrons in place is vital to the site. I do not believe that you should simply drop everything to work on the Necrons, but I believe they do deserve a little attention.
Your apology is fully accepted. I understand your concerns and always have. I think you need to have more trust that the site will be fine as our vision has gotten us this far and we're doing pretty well. Also, as I said, the Necrons are on a timetable and will receive the beginning of their makeover later this year. What you may not know is that I get usage statistics on every page, and to be fair, the Necrons page gets very few visitors compared to the other factions. As such, we work on what people most want first and then go down the list, and that is what drives my priorities when I hand out assignments to our editors. In the intervening time, the Lexicanum will have to fill the gap in this area, but the growing popularity of our site indicates that our current timetable has been quite successful. Thanks for your concern, as I know you just want to make this site the best it can be, as we all do.
Thank you for accepting my apology. I understand that you have a systematic approach to the work on this wiki, however I can not quite dispel my notion on this. While I do believe it is appropriate of you to focus on one major project at a time, and to prioritize those that receive particular interest, I am wondering if there is a middle path to be taken. Now, this is only my view on the matter, but doesn't it make sense that the core article of each faction should at least be up to date? Also on an entirely different matter, do you think that on the new system we should post our comments on the Message Wall in which the original subject began? I am having some difficulty wrapping my head around what proper message etiquette for the new system should be.
I've made my decision on this matter; my arguments were outlined above. As to the message wall, I don't have an answer for you as the new upgrade was just instituted and I am trying to figure it out myself. You are notified under the new system whenever someone replies to a message anywhere on the system, so it doesn't really matter where they reply; you should be able to find it with a single click. Beyond ease of use, I'm not concerned about etiquette.