User blog comment:Raffney/Timetravel in 40k OR is the Emperor a Chaos God?/@comment-8881468-20180224204647/@comment-2125941-20180225165319

"erebus only showed a vision in a dream provided by chaos, the Wb did not use time travel "

--Okay i thought i had read somewhere the word bearers where in the lab of the emperor back in time and somehow by default caused the department of the primarchs.

Nevertheless it does not change the main subject much.

" in all 40k lore I can only remember 2 instances of that happening, the ahriman novels and desert raiders "

Lorgar faced Magnus in his temple while on his pilgrimage. It was the corrupted future Magnus.

"as for emps: he is not an amalgamation of emotions in another deímension.."

The Chaos Gods get power from emotions but they get far more power from worshiping as stated in the books. Much like the emperor does.

"..he is not, will not and never was a chaos god,"

He is not a chaos god by now but some of the evidence points in the direction that he could be in the near future. I tried to describe that above.

Chaos is simplified the immaterium with a consciousness. The first four gods were fuled by emotions and even more so by worship. But these emotions exist even without the Chaos gods. Let's say in a theoretical scenario Slaanesh would be destroyed, would that mean the end of desire? No desire would still exist in the real world and the in the warp. Only the consciousness created in the warp from desire would be destroyed.

So wait another million years and be again careless like the eldar, once the peak is breached a Chaos god like Slaanesh would again evolve from that emotion. Worship of course would accelerate it.

What about that emperor then? He is seemingly only fueled by worship and not by emotions. Going by facts it is very possible that he could also reach that peak and become something like a chaos god himself. Maybe he reached that peak even by now and only his mortal shell is holding him back.

Remember the birth of slaanesh. Did his birth cry alone not marked his rise to real power. He wasn't before that powerful like he was afterwards. After him beeing fully awakened as a god. In other words it happens exponentially once the peak is breached.