Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-185.37.86.69-20160206091809/@comment-26516936-20160211072839

After Guilliman killed (or thought he killed) Alpharius the Alpha legion launched a brilliant attack on him & his band of Ultramarines completely out thinking & out fighting him - in fact Gulliman barely got off world alive & most of the Ultramarines with him were killed. Given tha Gulliman was perhaps the third ranked strategist among the primarchs behind only Horus & Lion el'Jonson for him to be out generaled that completely is a big indicator that at least one of the twins was still alive as it's almost impossible to accept that Gulliman could be that badly defeated by anyone other than a primarch.