Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-8881468-20131229020408

so let#s start this off with a quote

37.152.33.225 wrote: I never said there was no evidence of Primarchs being corrupted, of course there is. I said there is no evidence to suggest any of the loyalists suppossedly in the warp (Russ and Corax, maybe Vulkan) would be corrupted, none whatsoever. What makes you think they could be easily corrupted? You have simply pointed out the circumstances in which the traitors were corrupted, they were all willing to side with chaos in one way or another.

@Question of the Lion

1. Chaotic beasts on planet of discovery does NOT equal corruption by chaos, again absolutely no evidence to suggest that would be the case.

2. yes it was really warp energies used, evryhting I have read, mostly on this wiki, clearly states this, otherwise, Primarchs could be produced without the Emperor

3. Why does 'leaderless' mean they are easily influenced? Answer = it doesn't

4. one of the only things you have posted I would agree on

@High Lords - don't think anyone said they would give up their power for a Primarch, rather wondering how they would react if loyalist did return.

@Custodes - again, what posts have you been reading? I at no point said the custodes had any power in either legislature or jurisdiction. All I said was I would be interested to see their reaction, if any, to the retutn of a Primarch.

You seem to disagree with everything anyone has posted on this thread, but the fact is, there is no reason a Primarch could not be written in for a return, far stranger things have happened. Also, to assume the loyalists would be corrupted simply because they are unaccounted for is just ludicrous.

1. there is also no proof or evidence that they could not be currupted, many a primarchss wishes and strategies have been turned upon them

2. absolutely no evidence as has been given in f.e. descent of angels, ut it is more a simple common sense argument: how can an infant survive alone, in a chaos beast invested wilderness for years, without having contact with chaos.. yeah right that is only speculation (sidenote, the lion was one of 2 people being able to slay a Lion of that wold and it is shown in the fight in descent of angels that those beasts use chaos to their advantage.)

3. sources? please sidenote: genetic material is the mroe pressing matter ;)

4. leaderless= schismatic, uncontrolled, unclear about path they would have chosen if f.e. horus had won and so on and so forth.

5. what would a primarch change for the high lords.. theymight have a nice dog on a leash again but they cannot give him power over mroe than a chapter/ would not want to and he himself relinquished it anyway at the 2nd founding.

6. Custodes: as they would still stay inside the palace and guard the throne, nothing would change for them. I mean even empi id not really give the primarchs audiences or shared his plans  with them (root of the heresy)

7. assuming that they could not is about as thoughtless as assuming they could.. oh waitl they are only in the realms of their enemies and are, aside form magnus, no storng psykers themselves.messing with the minds of mortals must really be hard under those conditions.

8. also as with basic common sense, you would nto write back the return of a demigod without beings for the other races of the same status as to keep the game interesting ;) 