User talk:Montonius

Excellent Quality on Warhammer 40k Wiki
I've seen some of the pages that you've personally made, and I am simply STUNNED by the quality of your work. Please keep it up. You have the Emperor's blessing.

Thank you!
Hi, Montonius! I'm a regular reader of both the Lexicanum and the Wiki. I chose the wiki over the Lexicanum because of the Wiki's superior information. Just like to extend my gratitude for all your hard work.

And Thank You for noticing Lord Revan! I am hoping to make the 40k Wiki the number one source for Warhammer 40k information in the months to come as I continue to revamp the wiki from top to bottom. Please stick around and keep contributing, we will only get better! Montonius 04:02, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Warhammer 40k! Thanks for your edit to the Night Haunter page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Blade bane (Talk) 07:49, May 5, 2010

Granted
You are now an administrator, for showing constant dedication to the website and holding a consistent high-quality standard with your edits. Use your new powers well.
 * P.S. Sorry for not being able to stop by the site or halt vandalism recently, exams are taking up a lot of time so I won't be around to help for another one or two weeks. That said, I'm sure you can handle this place. Blade bane 02:58, May 16, 2010 (UTC)BBsig

There is an error in the Red Scorpions marines article
Hi one of pictures in the Red Scorpion spacemarines article is wrong.

The third picture is NOT a Red destroyer it is a Chaos Brass Scorpion !!

You can see it here http://www.ifelix.net/gamingblog/?p=980

Since the article is locked please delete that image from the article

Thanks Vasot 09:53, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Unlocking article on the Apocalpyse class battleship
Firstly thank you for the contributions and the edits to elements of my article. Some entries I made probably didn't need or shouldn't have been put in. Also thank you for closing the article to prevent vandalisim, it makes me proud of my work.

However I ask that you be able to allow to edit it just a little for just a while longer. I wanted to include more text to the Armageddon war involing the battleships, but not a full account of the war. Some visual edits to the text (bold formating present on some obsucere letters. Also to add the "table top game" chapter back because details on the game now come under the chapter reserved for the war.

I'm also puzzled by the removal of some resources. I ask only because I like to source my work.

Thank you again.

Stevid01

Re-locking of Apocalypse Article
Thank you for unlocking the article and thank you very much for the helpful advice. Thanks to that advice the chapter on the war is much shorter and concise than it would have been. I've finished the small edits there and you can relock the article for thereason you stated before.

I've left the sources as they were because I'm not all that familiar with how to do it properly and had no idea there were some conventions to follow. So until I'm more confident with that I'll leave it for the time being.

Thank you once more for the high praise and I'll continue to contribute to the wiki on BFG vessels of all the races.

Stevid01 16:56, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Unlocking of Black Templars
Hi there. Can you please unlock Black Templars so that I can add info from "And they shall know no fear..." by Darren Cox, in Heroes of the Space Marines --AlastairIrvine 13:45, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

...?
i was wondering if i could put one of my made up chapters on here? they're the "Iron Lions" i've got a pic' on my account representing a captain.

Raven Guard - Edit Request
Hi, i noticed you were the last to edit the Raven Guard page, i have found an issue with conflicting information on the page and was wondering if you could find the time to fix it, or grant me the ability to do so. I have left specific information in the talk page, both as to what the issue is and what the correct information should be. I have quoted my sources, and have added an image to support the information.

With Thanks,

~ Onyx Icarus of [Sons of Corax]

Sanguinius Page
I am not a 100% but recheck your sources, I recall Sanguinius defeated a Greater Daemon of Slannesh not a Blood Thirster of Khorne (however I do recall this fact always being in dispute), and it isn't called the "Ultimate Gate", it is refered to as the "Eternity Gate" where Sanguinius made his stand in defense of the Holy Palace on Terra that much I am certain of.

Hello
Hi. I'm Wendy, a Helper with wikia. Somebody contacted us about some spam that they had seen on the Black Templars page; I tracked it down to User:SniperGhost, who had replaced your Template:Reflist with nonsense. I wanted to let you know I had undone his/her edit, but I will leave it up to you to follow this wiki's policies in terms of what, if any, block isi appropriate. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Wendy (talk ) 01:09, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Locked Article Policy
Why are so many pages locked? Makes it pretty hard to improve the wiki. Ted Ernst 23:13, July 10, 2010 (UTC) In answer to all of the past and future questions on this topic, less than 5% of the articles on this wiki are sysop-locked. This has been done to stop the near-constant vandalism that was running rampant before I became primary administrator. It will remain the policy of this wiki indefinitely, or until I see a significant drop in attempted vandalism on highly popular or highly-trafficked articles. If you wish to make a legitimate edit to a sysop-locked page, simply leave me a note and explain, in as detailed a manner as you can, what changes you wish to make. If I deem the changes appropriate, I will unlock the article for you to complete your edits, after which you will leave me another note indicating you are done so that I can re-lock the article. I apologise for the cumbersome nature of this system, but with only a single administrator and constant vandalism, this is the only system that has proven effective in preventing immature people from destroying quite a lot of hard work on a whim. Montonius 23:21, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oi, you've locked Zeist Campaign...and you have grammatical & wikilink errors in it. Mind unlocking it so that other's can fix them? -Wulfenbach 19:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the locking can be a bit overboard. Protecting pages is all well and good, but there's stuff like double redirects that are locked. --LegacyCWAL 20:27, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

It is a small price to pay to stop the constant vandalism. The locks will remain indefinitely. Montonius 22:14, October 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. --LegacyCWAL 22:54, October 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * An honest question (because I really don't know the answer) - what about more semi-locking stuff, where only registered users can edit the pages? Would that work? --LegacyCWAL 20:40, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the vandalism is often conducted by users who register so they can vandalise. Montonius 07:29, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, gotcha. I'll stop bothering you about it now. I hope I haven't been too annoying :) --LegacyCWAL 18:55, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Imperium of Man
Hello, can you please unlock this page? There's a few things I'd like to add. Thanx!! RegisteredContributor 17:53, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I appreciate your fast response. Added some material in the page. RegisteredContributor 23:41, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Adminship or at least the right to edit a lot more pages
I would like to edit Space Wolves and Leman Russ I have just finished Thousand Sons and I am eager to give some data.BloodAngels Fan 15:43, July 16, 2010 (UTC) BloodAngels Fan

Magnus the Red
Just a note to propose editing this page to reflect newer info from HH12 "A thousand sons". For instance, he was not born a cyclops, he lost one of his eyes by looking into the Empyrean. Tissue and smooth skin grew where the eye and socket used to be. RegisteredContributor 22:00, July 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I further edited the page, thanks. RegisteredContributor 20:04, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

BloodAngels Fan
Montonius,

Please see the comments I made on BloodAngels Fan's user talk page in reference to his Space Wolves changes. He has a lot of speculation and incorrect facts regarding the chapter. - Killawatt 07:14, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Chapters Needing Work
On with the fun! Might as well take a look first at the List of Space Marine Chapters and get that tweak'd to spec.


 * Monty, before I go commenting some of your new fixes as weird, what's the new pattern for List entries? Are you going to stick with the Name - Blurb - Page link pattern that most of the list has, or are you going to go with the one you've set up for Alpha Legion and Emperor's Wrath? -Wulfenbach 05:36, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alpha Legion - fixed.
 * Avengers - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Dark Tusks - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Destroyers - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Desert Lions - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Emperor's Children - fixed.
 * Emperor's Wrath - fixed.
 * Emperor's Wolves - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Grief Bringers - fixed.
 * Halo Dragons - Missing from list. No page link. See Zeist Campaign.
 * Imperial Ravagers - New add. Messed up page ref. -'bach.
 * Inceptors - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Iron Hearts - No page link.
 * Iron Lords - Missing from list. No page link. See Zeist Campaign.
 * Knights of Blood - No page link.
 * Luna Wolves - Fixed, redirected to Black Legion.
 * Lords of Wrath - No page link.
 * Novamarines - Fixed.
 * Purple Stars - No page link.
 * Rampagers - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Reclaimers - No page link.
 * Sable Swords - Fixed.
 * Silver Guards - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Sky Sentinels - No page link.
 * Sons of Justice - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Sons of Horus - New add. Missing page link. -'bach.
 * Sons of Vengeance - No page link.
 * Sons of Ulthunas - No page link. Redirect to Angels of Ecstacy perhaps?
 * Star Phantoms - Fixed.
 * Storm Bringers - Removed, non-canon Chapter.
 * Storm Dragons - Removed, non-canon Chapter.
 * Taurans - No page link.
 * Tempest Sons - Removed, non-canon Chapter.
 * Terror Tigers - No page link.
 * Thousand Sons - Fixed.
 * Thunder Barons - No page link.
 * Tiger Claws - No page link. Redirect to Astral Claws perhaps?
 * Valedictors - No page link.
 * Violators - No page link.
 * Wolf Brothers - No page link.

There's also the issue of blurb formatting. I like the look of the average one, where it's:

Angels Porphyr

The Angels Porphyr Chapter was founded in the 31st Millennium.

That's a nice, clean look. A little spare in info, perhaps, but then we'd be getting into the issue of what should be in the blurb anyways, versus what should be left on the Chapter's wikipage itself. For my two sestertii, the name, founding date (if known), parent Chapter (if known), affiliation (Imperial/Traitor/Renegade) and state of existence (Active/Destroyed/MIA/etc) would cover most of the basic info needing to be in the blurb. Anything else might be better left in the Chapter's page itself. -Wulfenbach 20:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Excellent work thanks for the lost, I'll begin verification one by one as time permits. I'm glad you like the average blurbs, I wrote them.;) I would also add to them any particularly defining characteristics or campaigns that a Chapter fought in, especially for many of the minor Chapters which were often created to take part in a single cannon event like the 13th Black Crusade. In general, the blurb for each Chapter on the List page should probably match the first paragraph of its full separate page, since I have generally designed them to contain all of the information you mentioned. Montonius 20:54, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Tagged with Zeist Campaign page for reference. -Wulfenbach 22:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lexicanum Chapters
Should we then be importing in the information from the Lexicanum for inclusion into the wiki? It seems like quite the task, and there might be copyright issues with we were to cut-n-paste import. -199.185.120.1 01:10, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * LOL. There's no copyright issues since everything on their site is a violation of GW's copyrights, just as everything on our wiki is as well! If you take their information, simply alter it by paraphrasing it differently, then no issue involved. Montonius 03:19, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * ... Part of me says "I see...I'll be over here talking with my solictor" and the other part says "#### it, let's get it done." -Wulfenbach 08:10, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't worry Wulfy, you can tell your solicitor I've already put a legal disclaimer on the front page. Not that it's worth a damn since it basically says, "Yeah this wiki has no permission to exist, but we don't make any money from your stuff, so who cares?" Just take comfort in the fact that this wiki is 5 years old, and the Lexicanum even older, but no one cares. However, on a serious note, if there was a problem, GW would issue Wikia a cease and desist order (depending on where in the world their servers are based) and Wikia would simply remove the wiki from its servers. Nothing would happen save that we would come to this site one day and discover all our hard work gone into thin air. Montonius 19:53, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, in regard to the Lexicanum, they actually are a far more complete wiki than we are. However, I find their pages ugly and difficult to navigate and their formatting is a pain to the eye. I believe that given some time and effort, WE can become the premier Warhammer 40k website on the Web. We already have the top spot on Google because of our name. Our location on Wikia means we will always have an advantage in future searches over the Lexicanum. Our only problem is that this Wiki was abandoned by its founders about 2 years ago, then given to caretaker administrators who really did not have the time to govern it properly, so it became filled with vandalism and 2-line articles with no sources. We are going to change all of that in the months to come as I am here for the long haul and I've got an Administrator protection button and I'm not afraid to use it! Montonius 20:01, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, that's a reasonable goal. I'll stick on for the time being then. I would ask, very politely and with some amusement, please, PLEASE..indent your replies? :) Otherwise your reply to my reply equals a fearsome giant wall o' text (which of course causes LDR checks). -Wulfenbach 07:00, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you'll survive the fearsome wall of text, Wulfy! Montonius 07:14, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you'll survive the fearsome wall of text, Wulfy! Montonius 07:14, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Zeist Campaign
Take a look at the rewrite & discussion. I aimed to improve clarity on the read. May have succeeded, may have "FAILED MISERABLY". We'll see. -Wulfenbach 22:33, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

British Spelling
Bloody hell.

Well, that's embarrassing, since I'm a Canuck and we do still stick to the British spellings for the most part. My spellchecker is set otherwise it seems, and foolishly I trusted it without thinking. I'll alter it and stick with the proper spelling from now on. -Wulfenbach 06:46, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please allow me to defend myself Monotonius.
Argument 1, 4 & 5 of Killawatt

The data was already there and I just reorganized it please look into it. I did not know this was wrong but I just copy pasted it from the original Space Wolves page. Let me repeat I did not place it there I just organized all the data concerning to Wulfen from the entire page.

Argument 2

Well I maybe wrong here but we never really know but it is not stated in the Codex that Russ was raised by Wolves but by tribesmen who found him. Can you link the material that says "Russ was raised by wolves" ? I'll take back everything.

Argument 3

The thousand sons flesh change was caused by a faulty gene seed maybe purposely created by the Emperor. A psyker uses warp powers, a librarian is a psyker and looking into the other legions their librarians are not affected by the flesh change when using their powers. Yes it may be caused by using warp power but compared to the other legions the Thousand Sons have a faulty geneseed causing them to turn into monstrous creatures. The argument is that the Wulfen are still coidnsered to be monstrous to the Imperium yes it may be a gift but to others its a curse. I guess I could have placed that alongside what I posted. A page should not be all about the positives but should have negatives.

M'kar, Magnus, Emperor
1. I think the current Canon conflicts regarding M'kar have to addressed in the article. According to "Chapter's Due" Calgar imprisoned M'kar in the fort for 60 years. According to the Blood Angels Codex, M'kar was out and about and chasing after Mephiston at the time. Until GW fixes this discrepancy, it should be made clear in the article.

2. In Magnus's page, some of his later history and his dispute with Ahriman (after Ahriman goofed big time) should be pointed out?

3. Emperor page - something about his appearance (pre-Golden Throne) should be added. There's also significant info and questions not addressed: his Webway project should be mentioned. Why keep it secret from the Primarchs? Why was there a Webway portal on Earth to begin with? Also, why did he withhold info about the true nature of the Warp from the Primarchs etc etc (I don't know the answers to these ?? but I think they should be pointed out). There's also conflicting info on various pages regarding the star child and the working of the Astronomican. Which one is true: A. Emperor originates and directs the beacon, psykers amplify it. B. Psykers originate and amplify the beacon, Emperor directs it. I think A. is more likely? Also in various pages the beacon range is given as 50000 or 70000 light years. Which is correct?

Cheers RegisteredContributor 17:16, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanx, I will make some changes soon, also another point: I think the role of Kor Phaeron in the corruption of Word Bearers + Horus Heresy should be addressed. Apparently he was the first traitor and the one who corrupted Lorgar (being Lorgar's closest advisor and spiritual counselor). I know all this will be addressed in HH14 "The first heretic" by Demski-Bowden, but until it comes out in November maybe something could be added. RegisteredContributor 17:29, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Made some edits on M'kar and Magnus. Removed some details that probably belong elsewhere. (About the planet Prospero and the Battle of Prospero). RegisteredContributor 20:09, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

no problem mate :) For russ! For the Wolftime! 16:32, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have a good picture for the Aspiring Champions page.
But because it was locked I couldn't add it. So here you go:

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/File:Aspiringchampion.jpg

Thanks Tomlev40 20:01, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for editing my wiki my grammer is terrible

posting questions
How do I post a question I need answered? I wrote out a question and it went to my blog entry only. Thank you.

You're a wiki wizard..
I've got to say, you're a fluff god. It makes me look like I'm still at "see Spot run" levels.

Thanks for editing my own edits! Bumbles the Time Lord 07:12, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

That's why I don't get paid the big bucks! Montonius 06:32, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Catachan Devil
I'm not sure who blocked me from editing that page, but it led me to you apparently :P. I don't care about my limitations, but if you can add that they were actually thought of first as Tyranids that would be good.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/File:SegGalacticPic.jpg
This image here was created for the Lexicanum and therefor may not be used here. Please create your own version of the galaxy map. And please check copyrights to images created by Lexicanum users before taking and using them without their permission (e.g.: a personal drawing of a Salamanders Space Marine). If you want to use a Lexicanum article, you'll have to change it, as you have stated above. But please be fair and change it considerably, not only two or three words or one sentence. The author has put work and time in it and that should be respected. Thanks and best wishes. - --Inquisitor S. 19:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Lexicanum Issues
Okay, so just checking some of "your" most recent articles: your plagiarism percentage is well above 70% for text taken directly from www.lexicanum.com. As you know (or should know), the allowed threshold is 25%. Therefore you have the options to either credit the LEXICANUM writers who wrote the texts or change the texts so that you are under the plagiarism threshold of 25%. Otherwise (i.e. one of these options applied retroactively for the content of warhammer40k.wikia.com) you are in violation of your hoster's (www.wikia.com) terms of usage and we will have to contact the designated agent (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central:Designated_agent) responsible for this kind of issues. Ah, and something else I almost forgot. None of your pictures shows the official Games Workshop disclaimer required by Games Workshop's legal department. Best regards. --Inquisitor S. 20:52, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I apologise on behalf of the wiki for the inappropriate use of your content. I have removed the offending picture and begun to rewrite all articles with the problems you indicated, as well as posting a warning on the main page of the wiki outlining how to avoid future problems with the Lexicanum's content according to the guidelines you outlined. However, this Wiki has essentially been abandoned by its original administrators, I am the only one left and I do not have the resources or time to replace all of the potential conflicts on a 1400 article Wiki in a timely fashion, never mind placing a legal notice on literally hundreds of pictures that were uploaded by many, many different people over five years. I have only been with this site since May 2010 and this wiki was created 5 years ago. No safeguards or copyright rules were ever strictly enforced by the original administrators in that time and so it will take me a very long time to replace or remove all of the inappropriate content that probably exists on this site. I will begin to do so according to the guidelines you have suggested. If you are willing to be patient, I will begin to implement and enforce the policies that should have existed from the start, but this will take time. We do not have a dedicated band of editors and tend to simply get people who come in, grab articles off the Lexicanum or Wikipedia now or in the past and paste them in without further editing or conduct rampant vandalism. Again, I apologise for these errors on behalf of the wiki and will move as quickly as I am able to remove offending content and/or rewrite articles that have made inappropriate use of your content as well as delete or reshape content added by other contributors as it occurs. Montonius 03:00, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Waaaaagh, da Orks!
Ey, new player to 40k here, I've played the computer version for some time and my friend has drawn me into the board game now. He's an Imperial, and I'm going to lead some Ork's, he already has some pieces to give to me for starting off. Plus I like their outnumbering strategy, the ramshackle technology is fun for me to make, I love the small details.

But anyways, I came here for info, when I went to individual pages of vehicles and types of units, I found most were stubs..why not start a wikia-project? Cleaning up stubs? Add your name to the list of people that participated in the project if you want to help, like a Vehicle Clean-Up, Unit Clean-Up, that stuff. Also, hello! Mafia Mettaur 01:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

salamander companies?
hi, can i add pictures to the salamanders page because i managed to make examples of each company color...

Adeptus Mechanicus Iron Citcle and other Wh40k pictures
Hi and thanks for your help.

I have question about Wh40k pictures.Can Russian Wikipedia use pictures from that site in Warhammer40k articles?

Only if the proper licenses are used for Games Workshop intellectual property. Montonius 18:10, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ey, Monti.
No response? Not even a,"Beat it, I don't care"? Mafia Mettaur 01:40, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately there are not enough editors (i.e there are none save me) here to carry out such projects. Most of the entries you described actually have full descriptions on the Wiki, but they are located on the conglomerate pages ("Weapons of the Imperium, Vehicles of the Orks, etc.) rather than in individual entries. As such, those kinds of pages would lie at the very bottom of my list of current priorities for the wiki. However, feel free to fix whatever stubs you find. Montonius 03:07, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Forgebreaker..
hey just read your page on Perturbo, quick question where did you get the info on Forgebreaker? In "Fulgrim" that is the hammer Fulgrim makes for Ferrus Manus of the Iron Warriors. Just some background on that hammer, I guess befor Horus gives it to him?... any i think are doing a great job thanks

i need help!
hi, sorry for bothering ya but my freind, ian collects tau and i collect tyranids. because of their ranged weapons, he always beats me from afar without me killing even one of his guys! if u can help i would be gratefull. Lordofb 18:30, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

I am confused
I want to make a new page called imperial bastions but i got a message today saying about licensed pictures, i read the rules of this wiki and still do not understand. please help!Lordofb 16:30, October 13, 2010 (UTC)