Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-68.229.119.75-20161124160543/@comment-72.218.214.11-20161202023033

1. The Mechanicus trying and failing is not a failure of my point but rather proof. Your argument being addressed was that none in the Imperium outside of Chaos followers would try it because no one would try something new or different from the strictures of the Imperium. I disproved your argument. I did not do so on a singlular basis. Deviation from the stricture of the Imperium by those who are not Chaos followers is a repeated statement of fact within the Warhammer 40k setting. The Logicians perform both genetic and electromechanical research. The Vogelist faction of Genetors perform biological research. The Navigator houses perform genetic research AND develop new powers along the way. Various factions of the Inquisition deviate from the strictures. The Space Wolves and the Black Templars and the Dark Angels grossly violate the Codex Astartes.

2. I do read the source material. you have failed to introduce anytihng relevant to counter the ideas.

3. About this:  The old ones may very well have made us from similar enough biological material to allow interbreeding, how knows" biology is not your forte...

You are making a logical fallacy. You are attempting to use actual biology to make an argument in a setting where it has been made irrelevant by the setting. The fact I choose to not use irrelevant material is no indication either way of my forte' involving biology.

4. About this:  Oh wait: "old tech is always better",

Actually, backed by the Logicians, the Meritech Clans fielded improved shipboard technology roughly 600 years prior to current date- depeding upon which current date you use. Roughly 200-300.M41, IIRC. Better than DAoT, maybe not. Better (on scale) than what it was up against? Yes. The improved shipboard technology of a few voidborn clans just couldn't match the total horde thrown at them by the Imperium- Imperial Navy, Explorator Fleets and Titan Legions, and Space Marines. IOW, technology has improved after dropping off.

5. Most importantly, you keep performing two logical fallacies. First, you try to counter the potential for the two races to cross breed in this setting by agruing no one in the setting would try it. Not only is that irrelevant to the question of it being possible, it has been disproved as a question of fact. Second, you try to argue that actual biology would prevent it in a setting that repeatedly dismisses actual biology on the basis of drawing your own conclusions rather than looking for explicit statements to support the claim. The fictional biology prevents it because Neithan02 declares that the fictional biology prevents it based upon real biologyis. This isn't your dream world. Erroneously drawing conclusions and declaring something as a fact because it is a(n erroneously drawn) conclusion instead of a given fact of a setting is poor logic.

Anyway, I give you the last word on this. I've wasted too much time arguing over nonsense. I'm out.

Cheers.