Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-8881468-20160114090952/@comment-8881468-20160125123439

I am not sure wether you have read deliverance lost. Yo0u are aware that they are basiccally given the Primarch DNA and the Emperor's research data and then only try to  minimize the vrieties and subtleties of the Gene see, to get one of the 20 specific Primarch DNA sets and churn out marines.

All they are doing, again, is minimizing previous work, thery are not inventing anything new. Adding to that is the fact that Corvus and not the Mechanicum does most of the theoretical work and adding to it the transfer of a 30k concept into 40k.

Do you even think about your postings before you type them up?

To quote the Hotshot Las article's last sentence. " As such, only a small number of  Forge Worlds  in the Imperium possess the technological know-how or requisite materiel to produce these potent weapons."

They knew they would battle power armoured foes or orks on a large scale for 10000  years and did not manage to make it a mass produced article.. talk about research.

If we move on to the Bolter and the "patterns" which are more defined by material and add ons ( f.e. ultima nocturne has a night vision attachment (kinda redundfant with auto sense and occulobe but meh.^^) or the production world than actual improvement. THe difference between a mark IV and IV Ultra f.e. is 5 more rounds in the  magazine of the latter.

Also let us not forget that standard attitude of the Mechanicum  of "older is better" hence the keeping of weapons of the great crusade still being churned out by f.e. the Dark Angels and many other chapters.

With regards to red tape.. hand them 100 at their inception, when you know jack diddly poop about how they will operate /act/react. NOt even mentioning that with loyal chapters that have fought for the IoM for millennia it is kinda awkward to not give them access to the best gear available or to not supply them with all that is needed. Same for f.e. Deathwatch and Dreadnoughts or the lvoely pet dogs of the inquisition.

As for tzhe Orks, research proof that you have been debating for ;)  We could argue for mutations base don environment, etc or the constant growth through strife making it hard / genetics ineffective.  and tbh: the IoM already has an I win button over Orks, Lifeeater ftw. they already have access to that and still orks are around.

as for the jetbikes: it would be nice if you actually used your brain before giving me more arguments to work with.

The IoM had access to jetbikes in the time of the GC but since then, since the heresy they have not produced any. You know, degredation of Mechanicum abilities is a thing.

but hey, to quoite that article to you

"  The last known Jetbike pattern that was built by the Imperium was the Mark XIV Bullock Pattern Jetbike, which was equipped with an integrated auto-drive as well as other additional specialised capabilities such as auto-targeters linked to the vehicle's weapons, an  Auspex, and an extensive suite of sensors capable of differentiating between biological lifeforms and inorganic energy emissions. Imperial Jetbikes were capable of both in-flight and hover modes. In combat, Imperial Jetbikes could be deployed by aerial-drop separation, a technique where a jetbike would be dropped from a Stormbird  while the aircraft was still in the sky. These formidable and sleek craft allowed their riders to soar at great speed across the battlefield, held aloft by archaic anti-gravitic technology lost to the  Tech-priests  of the  Adeptus Mechanicus    in the 41st Millennium."

You really want to use jetbikes, which the mechanicum has not been able to produce in 10000 years as an example for tzhe mechanicum being able to do research?

Do over, do over and look this time.