Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-27642965-20160211003725/@comment-4851119-20160423180326

195.204.237.81 wrote: If we go back to the golden age of humanity (The Age of Technology) then i think the 40k universe would defeat any sci-fi universe easily. Because back then Humanity was so advanced, much much much more advanced than the imperium at it's current state. There was actually a mention of a black hole staff (in a novel) that literally shoots miniature black holes and how they managed to not let the black hole swallow up the whole planet just shows how greatly humanity understood their own technology at that time. We know barely anything about the DAOT to the point where we can't actually discuss it at all in this context. All we see are a few standout examples of their technology (a couple of starships and that one super defence laser immediately come to mind) about which we have no idea how common they were, nor whether they were representative of an upper limit or not. We have no information on army or fleet sizes, territory, industrial capacity, level of militarisation in their society or anything we need to know to actually draw a conclusion.

And even if we assume that every ship was on the level of the two we've actually seen, that every world had a full grid of super defence lasers and that every citizen could acquire a black hole staff as a common commodity, and that their industry, territory and military might were at the very least comparable to the current IOM, I'm still not seeing them being comparable to the Culture or able to actually win against the Forerunners.