Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-8881468-20160114090952/@comment-86.141.22.238-20160114215549

It's called FIRE CASTE...Apparently a ebook though it was a real book when i read it.

Sure you can't always fix it but what you are failing to understand is it's more than 'plug and play' knowledge. They all aren't ninja's but in the Lords of Mars (et al other books in that trio) you hear of well respected research magi going missing, que a big search with a ark mechanicus and some space marines. That research mentioned was about odd planetry growth and similar science magic stuff.

LRC is still designed by them and tested by them then sanctioned after research into it's usefullness by the Mechanicum. The original story around it was nothing to do with old tech crap...Trials and Evaluation is still research.

It's patently obvious that they research things as, as I say, unless there is a machine for everything that they could make, then they themselves know things and can learn/research/design stuff. It happened in FIRE CASTE as people new about hydralics/welding/gyroscopes/metal working/metallurgy etc etc etc to get it to work.

Mechanicum is not a good example to try and prove you point for a couple of reasons -

You gobbed off about 'not mixing 30k and 40k' the other day as they are very different...so that either means you were A)Wrong to say that B)A Hypocrit or C) Bit of both

The mechanicum was somewhat swayed to theHorus camp as they were told to not research certain areas but others were fine...what does that tell you? Welll, it should be that they had the skill and want to research.

That book, if I recal, is where we first get a proper glimsp at noo spherics and that was so new, having been recently designed (that means research had to be done...it didn't just turn up one day) that most of the forges didn't have it and that helped some avoid the scrap code attacks.

Another point to clear show that research does indeed occur is armour of the spacemarines has been through various design changed yes? Did some one just open a box marked "open if bored" or did they see a issue and adapt it. Was not the ye'olde beaky armour not called the CORVUS pattern after famously the RavanGuards TESTED it? Hmm, think so.

What about the use of the Leman Russ over the HH era MBT, they again didn't just pop up, they were desinged, especially we are talking about some of the versions of it or the rounds they do now or did once use...they were dropped after....RESEARCH, yeah you are following now. cool.

Various space vessels came about after wishing to defeat another foe and there is was a type of IOM vessel that was stolen after RESEARCH and development by chaos and became a chaos vessle....i'll undoubtably have to read it all to dig the name out as you won't care to research it yourself I expect.

Regarding FSM, it just takes GWS to think...hmm, want to appeal to more women/spice up alittle, lets have FSM and they can easily write it in and have perfectly good stories about interesting stuff that occurs with the FSM. And remeber, it's not about been the strongest or fastest, as undoubtaly, they won't also have won the aspirent trials, it's about been the best overall. If they happen to be females then so be it, GWS could make it happen just as plausibly as anything else it does. I just imagine they are content as they are.