Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-203.134.114.240-20130721023526/@comment-211.26.90.118-20130731082731

Kristoffer2510 wrote: Go look at Firewarrior, and then come back about the IG. Was it a medicore game? Yes, but it has its fun moments as well. Did it broke cannon fluff? Yes, who knew a single Firewarrior could solo an entire Chaos Legion. But did anybody complain about it? Mabye, mabye not, but the majority dosen't seem to give a blam since it was the first (I think) WH40K game that was in for the sixth generation console.

Now go look at Spacemarine, who knew a single Ultrasmurf could solo an entire Ork WAAAAAGH and an entire Chaos Warband equipped with a demon prince all by himself. Did it broke a little bit of fluff? Yes it did. But did anybody b*tch and moan about status quote plot armor? No, because who cares about serious fluff change so ling as the campaign is fun.

Neithan02 you must know that this is WH40K not Star Wars, consistency is all over the place. We have given examples of Spacemarines being killed by a pointy stick, and we have cases of a single IG flashlights vapourising boulders. Compared to other books such as those created by Matt Ward, an IG game centred around a high ranking Imperial Gaurd general commanding his troops Battlefield style is the least fluff damaging espects of WH40K.

Although I agree that Krisstofer 2150 can be a bit childish, he dose have a point. You could have an IG campaign that could be centred around the heroic and selfless sacrifice, while you an IG General is forced to sent into the front lines and command troops due to plot device.

Calling the IG as "crappy cannon fodder" is at best distasteful, as someone who loves the backstory of the IG, they are not and I mean not crappy. Sure they have cardboard armor and flashlights, but the things that some of them do is far more badass then a Spacemarine. Furthermore if they really were crappy as you said, then the IoM would have fallen in less then 5 minutes, but obviously this is not the case. Almost every IG is proparly trained in some form of martial arts, most of them definatley know how to aim and shoot.Even eith number, individually they are not crappy.

And again read the OP, they are fighting Tau, before you go and rant about why IG is a crappy race to play individually. I might advice you that throughout the campaign, IG and Spacemarine forces are continuing to be destroyed and forced back by the Tau. And that the main goal throughout the campaign is to try and save the civilians and the Titan, while your man are forced to make sacrifices.

And I did read about the IoM and GE alliance thread, and aparently I was dissapointed of where it went, it was meant to be a ROB tech-share with fluff out of the way. But aparently the fun was taken out, if Spacebattles.com could do it without rampant fanboy rage about fluff, then I am pretty sure that this forum should do the same to. Thank you! Finally someone who understands me and the fluff.

And yea i have been known to become a bit childish when desperat to show/prove my point and especialy when dragged that far. And i can be a bit bad at explaining my points and views, but you just got all of what i was trying to explain to him in one word "consistency" which i was trying to make him understand when it comes to the Imperial Guard and a game. As you said it's all over the place.

And in the end it was just shown that Neithan02 doesn't even like the Imperial Guard, he just sees right through the fluff and sees only the part about them all basicly dying with cardboard armour and flashlights, nothing more nothing less. Lack of depth. Looks like someone has deleted my post, due to my honesty. But yeah the main problem of threads like these, is that some people take it too seriously. Krisstofer2510, you still need to be calm and take some criticism, especially if your in an arguement like this. If you lose your cool, the opposition will take this as an advantage and slam you down harshly. A friendly reminder for you.