Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-173.63.204.82-20130905130834/@comment-6078851-20130907160427

i am genuinely impressed with danny's imagination and writing (as well as the writing of most participants in the rp), but when it comes to vulture i will no longer be reading anything that he's in.

i've (mostly) enjoyed reading the thelican rp, and as op as vulture is there is a lot of good story points surrounding him. however, vulture doesn't belong in 40k: from a 'realistic' standpoint in the context of 40k, no-one could beat a chaos god, and while emps may have or had the power/ability to do so, there is no human-being in the galaxy who's origins are anywhere similar to the emperor and that includes vulture. i know the reasoning is the warp-forge, which is one of the ideas i like, but the warp-forge itself is way too op - the numbers it churns out (whether they're real or cloned) is out of all proportion to any facet of 40k, and i agree with the complaints that accompanied those numbers. those numbers dont equal epic, they equal ludicrous and farcical, as do vulture's abilities, and more than a few times i was about to quit reading.

if you read this (danny), don't think i'm being critical just for the sake of it: i'm not a writer but i'm creative at painting and drawing and i totally understand the joy and love that goes into creating something with a story and history (and obviously you want your creations to be badasses, which to be fair they totally are), and you should be lauded on your writing skill. however, in the fight against los' c'tan nova you said "i don't want this to be more of a pissing contest than it already is" (or words to that effect), but you kinda started the pissing contest long before that - anyone who tried to have a go at vulture had to become op just to have a semblance of a 'fair' fight (which you later mention wasn't a fair fight because vulture wasn't trying), because regardless of whatever anyone tried you simply responded by saying "tough! vulture can piss higher, further, stronger, faster and for longer than anyone" (obviously i'm paraphrasing).

as far as i can see the only exception is eagle who, while not nearly as bad as vulture (maybe), is also a little too op. now in relation to 40k numbers i can totally accept the sentinals of war's pre-heresy legion size: there is precedent in the space wolves chapter size and even the dark angels have been known to operate as a legion using their successor chapters. i'm not sold on the idea that the founder of the sentinals beat all the primarchs in hand-to-hand, but only because he wasn't a primarch, but that is simply my opinion and not a gripe, and i may be off with that as it was a while ago that i read the sentinals' fluff, which i enjoyed. but if eagle is the only one who can take on vulture then that smells a little bit like...'intellectual nepotism'... for want of a better term.

plot armour's all well and good in it's place but personally i don't think anyone should be immune to sudden and unexpected death, things can be made a lot more interesting. for me vuture's plot armour, in the context of 'realistic' 40k, is more a plot breaker, and i don't want to see him ever again, unless he, or his warp-forge, gets toned down a bit......maybe quite a bit.

while this is definitely criticism, please take it in the context of constructive criticism, as i have no quarrel with you or your writing.

....except vulture :)