Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-112.207.229.75-20160517103444/@comment-45.23.243.3-20160522141533

45.23.243.3 wrote: If Mangus did was he was told after the events of Nikea sorry unsure of spelling. He would of never forced his way and destroyed the webway project. This would be a HUGE change of events. The Thousand sons would of never been attacked and would of remained a loyal legion. Also the emperor would be able to deal with Horus much sooner instead of being trapped on the Golden Throne to keep it closed from Chaos. Hundreds or perhaps even thousands of Custodes and Sisters of Silence would been avaliable to resist Horus. The outcome would have been very diffrent if Mangus simply followed his orders..

I know Mangus was trying to help and acted in the only way he had to warn his father, If only the emperor had even had the slightest faith in Mangus who knew the risks involved by his actions to consider maybe Mangus is on to something instead of being pissed off but rightly so and stop and think, why would mangus do and risk everything and my anger/ fury/ wrath for a lie? If the Emperor would of even or a moment consider what Mangus was saying could be true Things could of been very diffrent. But we all know what happend....

I wanted to add more on this, but this thing called work always gets in the way. SO were was I...

Mangus never sent his message and the webway remained intact, but he had to get his message to the Emperor

a few problems arise, the most important is Proof, how would he convince the emperor of Horus turning to chaos? This is a serious charge against not only his brother but also the warmaster, not to mention he is not the most popular Primarch amongst his brothers espically after Nikea, mangus could of simply used his powers to show the emperor and his brothers but cant with out disobeying his orders,  (now forgive me if my timing of events is off here I like to think of myself as well versed in 40k lore but if I am mistaken please feel free to show this humble adept the error of his logis stacks)

Mangus could of used the behavior of his brothers to help convince the emperor that things were changing for the worse. The acts of the World Eaters and Angron's behavior as bloodthirsty maniac, Kurze and the conduct of his legion not to mention the destruction of his homeworld by his hand and the #1 piece of proof Logar and his Legion building temples of worship and seeking a god to worship, early on the Ultramarines bitch slapped the Logar's legion on the Emperors orders for their behavior. With all of this perhaps the emperor could of seen that the conduct of his sons were not up to his expectations and they were folllowing the path of the chaos gods,  The emperor no doubt knew of the chaos gods an their aspects, murder,decay, pleasure,change.

Imagine the Emperor saying this Magus, The charges you make upon your brothers is  beyond serious, however what you have brought forth upon for your reasons, I can not deny, your brothers have acted against my commands and these events are increasing. I trust Horus will carry out my commands, but your brothers my sons what they have done I can not deny this...

Also the emperor could of used his power to see into mangus and find out if he truly believed in his words. The emperor could of sent  agents to the questioned legions to investigate but chaos is very tricky, and it is quite likely that his agents would of been turned or killed. reguardless mangus would of remained loyal and the the emperor made aware that his sons were following a dark path. Fast forward the heresy is put down the emperor kills horus but is still wounded  alive but wounded Mangus is vindicated and takes is place on the "throne" and opens the webway for man.

But Chaos will not be denied their prize  and mangus seeks knowledge that the dark gods are all to happy to provide...and he's sitting right in the middle of the palace on Terra.