Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-203.134.114.240-20130706042929/@comment-203.134.114.240-20130716111616

Legionaire22 wrote: I don't really see what Ward nerfing Phil Kellys workarea has to do with anything, but truth be told, the SWs don't really have that much to nerf that hasn't been nerfed already.

As for the SMs armor: In ONE book, a Space Marine got killed by a lasgun. In all other books, a single lasgun chips paint off the cermatie. And don't underestimate the lasgun, a single magazine turned a stone bunker wall into slag. Heavy Stubbers are much more powerful than our modern weaponry, even if they have the appearance of them.

Then there is a major reason why we cannot put most other Sci-Fis with 40k. Reason for it is simple: 40k follows standard physics, normal sci-fi does not. It is physically impossible for anything larger than a miniscule particle to move at FTL speed (Unless you work around it like 40k does with the Warp)

Now you think: "But everyone has that kind of workaround" Nuh-uh, because I have not seen a single other Sci-Fi in which it takes more than an hour to reach a planet at earth-distance. However, moving at such speeds means you are moving faster than light, since it takes around 3 hours for light to reach Jupiter.

So, what does this mean for our forces? It either means that we would take 40k and put them in HALO, where they would be severely lacking. However, that's not what we are doing, are we? We are putting Covenant in 40k. This means that their ships would rip themselves apart when they gunned their engines. So thus, their naval power is out.

As for the IG killing a CSM, do not think Cain (The only IG who has done so in CQC) is a good ground for 40k lore. The only IG who can come close to fighting an Astartes in 1v1 is Catachans, who have muscles that makes flak bounce off.

I would consider the Revenant as a Scout Vehicle.

And what people need to do is stop using the SM as comparison points. Space Marines would not be what they fought as their main enemy. If the Covies came to 40k and tried to take a planet, they would face several million of Guardsmen who MIGHT be backed up by Space Marines.

Now, however, I am at the end of my wits. I have indulged in this debate for a while, yet now I grow weary and tired. Heck, I don't even like Halo that much! :p

Technically guys calculated that a Lasgun is slightly stronger than a AK-47 around 45 kilojoules, and a Heavy Stubber has reported to use 50.cal which could also be out fitted with Bolter rounds. Take note thats just the average calcs.

Wait when did WH40K followed standard physics 0_o wasn't it fantasy sci-fi? Halo and WH40K are known to rape physics. So I am not sure about Covie Ships ripping themselves apart when they do Slipspace, if thats what you meant 0_0.

WH40K and Halo calcs are both broken, you see why we have different calcs for each one, it is so difficult to find a legit standard calc for each without wanking it or low-balling it :(

So...what would you like to compare Covies with? Tau, Nids or Orks?

Also this may be out of context here, but who do you think is more retardedly hilarious, Boreale's 'SPHESSE MAHREENS' or Carron's 'METAL BAWKSES'.

Overall an interesting and civil discussion.