Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-7699236-20150618150629/@comment-8881468-20160113070845

You would do well to first read up on the things you want to use before make a post that only supports my side of the argument and negates yours. thanks for supporting my point.

According to you, slapping a piece of approved tech  on a different approved chassis because of battlefield constraints is ocnsidered r&d...(Sidenote, the original construct of that is actually also no new variant as according to the post we have on it in the wiki, it is based on "tecvh arcana" found in a hive. if we want to get into the land raider crusader's history)

If you want to talk about the Whirlwind Hunter, that one is actually an STC contruct, no new research. Same is true for the whirlwind stalker.

All 3 cases are simply "rediscovery" of ancient data and not actual research that brings new technology. If the Mechanicum did do proper research, the Imperium of Man would not be as stagnant in technology with using the same weapons as cutting edge for 10000 years without any change in them. I mean hey rapid fire plasma guns that do not overheat.. yay, jetbikes for everybody: yay. jump packs that can carry a devastator marine, a different propulsion than combustion engines for basiccally every non battleship.

But hey, let me quote from the Plasma Weapons article

In the modern 41st Millennium, it is an honour to carry such weapons into battle and be trusted to make sure every searing shot counts.''' Based on the secrets of the sacred STC, it is a design that has never been developed or improved on. Indeed, the very thought of trying to mitigate the flaws of Plasma Weapons would be repellent to the followers of the Machine God. '''

Gradually, over many millennia, understanding of the plasma technology used to build Executioner Plasma Cannons has almost been lost, with Ryza being one of the few Forge Worlds still capable of producing them.

Should I really go now and quote novels like "baneblade" or "relentless", the HH Mechanicum novel and many more sources (f.e. the "Belacane" subscetions society and exports) where you find a degredation of imperial tech or the reverence for older technologies that are singular and not understood by the imperium (trials of azrael, the sub vox network is aanother example)

As for STCs: That data is needed for a Forge World to actually be able to  produce anything. (Macharius Heavy Tank article, Baneblade article)

and you missed the point that  the standard for the astartes is first of all: being male, as nobody has the technology to create themf rom females

and you missed the point that there is no point in putting females in when you can take the men that are all better

and you missed the point that the astartes are not about equality

you have also missed the point of culture having an influence.

you have also missed the point that women have a lower physical potential than men.

I am not missing "your point", your point is simply countermanded by several others and thus can be dismissed.