Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20141206200938/@comment-86.190.171.142-20150101090207

Funny enough No I am not saying that the Ultramarines will be as accomplished at terror tactics as the NightLords, the Imperial Fists at rapid assualts as the White Scars or the World Eaters as good at infiltration as the Raven Guard BUT what I am saying is that the Ultramarines will have a understanding of terror tactics and if needed, could employ them as psy warefare is used now and basic principals used often, let alone by elite troops where knowledge can be practically conditioned into their subconscious. Likewise, why wouldn't the Imperial Fists  not be able to mount rapid combat inserts or do you think the World Eater legion is utterly devoid of scout formations? The Raven Guard would likely be very aware of rapid strike also as it is a key principal of gurilla warefare, much the same as psycological warefare.

People and units will have a preference but stupid they are not and if the mission requires alittle sneaky sneaky, compared to blowing the hell out of things then I'm fairly sure that can be arranged. Spectrums again, you seem to see things in Blacks and Whites then actually so so much are just shades of grey.

I certainly never said that a sniper and tank driver were interchangable either but would it shock you (probably, as you seem to be fairly dense) that a sniper will still go on general patrol with the unit main weapon as normal as not, though also with a slung long range weapon, Thus if a fire fight enrupts, the unit isn't at a fire power disadvantage, whilst maintaining the force multipler/long distance skills of the sniper...if you then ask the sniper to drive the get away jeep they won't stare at your dumbfounded either....

So given that you seem to make ill placed uses of otherwise acceptable principals e.g. 'you will fall back to conditioning when in a stresser situation, well yes, to a degree that's true but say you have some NightLords Facing off against some Tyranids (almost mindless in that regard), Necrons (Much the same, they do as they are told) or other NightLords (who's knowledge of your tactics are going to significantly undermind your attempts to use them-it's like seeing a horror movie 50 times, you become desensitised...Terror tactics wouldn't work, a rapid assult might though...of yeah, I failed to see where they sat around scratching their heads woundering what to do...

So these Ultramarines who didn't see their primachs visions as gosspel straight away...they thought there might be a better way...they stood out from the normal Ultramarine image of tick tock, by-th-book correctness...maybe they were the adoptive marines :) PROVE I AM WRONG...can't exactly, so ergo, that potentail that a merge occured is possible. Win.