Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20141214213749/@comment-35357216-20180420120654

ImperialFist31 wrote: What would happen if warhammer 40k  universe vs star wars's universe.

I've always wondered who would win. 1. Star Wars fans think that Hyperspace and Waarpa are two different things. Yes it is. But in the Milky Way in the 40th millennium, the movement through hyperspace is incredibly slow. Tau uses this technology, and they need months to cross the distance between neighboring stars.

I admit that Star Wars was a hundred thousand years to improve the journey through hyperspace. They reached a practical maximum of this technology. This does not mean that each millennium they increased the speed of movement by one percent. Technological sophistication does not work this way. Over time, engineers have increased security, convenience, reduced costs and so on. But the increase in the base effect occurs on the damping curve, and this is inevitable for any technology.

Therefore, even after the first 100 years of technology development, Tau had to reach a significant part of the maximum permissible speed. They are smart and did not do it - but why? Because there is a limiting factor that is not technological. Warhammer is a dark and magical, even mystical universe. In it, the movement of hyperspace is slow, because the ubiquitous Warp says so. All mortals must suffer.

And, by the way, Necrons use a different technology of motion, independent of Vaarpa. They compress their ships to one dimension and punch like a needle through space. They reach a superluminal speed, but they also remain slow to imperial ships.

Conclusion: Even a large-scale space war will not occur between the fleet of the Imperium and the expedition squadron of Thrawn. The guests will need several months to go through several light years. The distance that they can spend in hours in their galaxy. But not here.

2. The very touch of the Jedi and the gates of the Galaxy to the Milky Way will destroy the former as a civilization. There are no religions in the Galaxy of Luke and Palpatine, and the understanding of the Force is completely abstract. For good or evil, atheism, polytheism or esoteric teachings can not contain the spread of mono-religion. And in Warhammer there are five aggressive, monotonous religions (four gods of chaos and faith in the Emperor).

There are no religious ideas / images to stop the spread of these aggressive mono-religions in the galaxy of Luke and Palpatine. The result is that the balance between the abstract Light and the Dark Side will be destroyed. In their place will appear images of chaos-gods and the emperor.

Along with the recruitment of power by the gods of Warhammer in the galaxy of Luke and Palpatine, the action of Varpa will begin to manifest itself more and more. Without its own monorail, in order to stop this process, it is inevitable. Even the Imperial Empire itself could not stop it.

3. There remains the question of technological and military superiority. Fans of Star Wars believe that the Worhammer 40K universe is technologically weaker, because technology does not exist. - Technologies Worhammer 40K lag behind the mythical golden age. During this mythical golden age, the technologies of the Milky Way surpassed everything that we, or the inhabitants of the Jedi and the Galaxy can imagine. We are talking about the mythical golden age of technology, equivalent to the mythical time in the demigods. - Worhammer 40K is developing technology (or their recovery in the golden technological age). Due to the size of the fleet and the army in the Imperium, innovations were made at great intervals, even for centuries. However, in the long term, there is no complete discrepancy at the technological level. - I said something higher. Each technology is designed primarily to improve its security, convenience, security and reduce the cost of its use. But without technology, its main effect can not be increased to infinity. Against him we could even talk about a dying curve of refinement.

Therefore, we can not say that one or the other galaxy has a critical superiority at the general technological level.

However, the question remains as to how technology is used to create ships. It is possible that the Starfleet War initially protected the planet from advancing attacks from outer space. The question of the chronology of scientific discoveries and the development of technology - but because instead of direct attacks on the planets of the fleet are satisfied with the blockade.

The blockade is an economic mechanism that is effective only if the besieged do not lose more money and resources from the besieged. Therefore, in the priority of Star Wars, he was a warship less than a kilometer and a massive use of fighter jets and bombers in the size of flying military vehicles of the 20/21 century.

In the Uarhamar 40K technological development went in the opposite direction - there were first discoveries and developments for ships that make the creation of a planetary shield pointless. From there, military evolution reached an average size of medium-sized ships of the order of five kilometers. Like sixty-eight feet of fighters and eighty-inch bombers.

Therefore, it is pointless to talk about equivalence. Star Wars. The battleship is built in such a way as to impose planetary blockades with minimal resources and money. Warhammer 40s are designed to blow up other warships.