Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-4851119-20140323173912/@comment-50.83.1.9-20140413215813

173.25.47.250 wrote: 50.83.1.9 wrote:

173.25.47.250 wrote: Spartan-II Augmentations allowed their subjects to run, at baseline, 55 kmh, with John-117 surpassing that at 105 kmh, with the only side effect being his achilles tendon being wounded.

In testament to the strength of these Spartans, Cal-141 could negate Gravity Hammer swings with a single blow and Naomi-010 defeated a Jiraelhanae with a single uppercut, breaking it's spine as well.

Spartan augmentations evolve over time, increasing over the years. Geneseed augmentation does not. It is clear, Supahbadmarine, which posthuman is inferior. .

Spartan-III applicants are even more advanced than the Spartan-III, their survivability going up to 100%. Compare to Asartes survival rates during augmentation.

Spartan-IV are highly trained Veterans, quite numerous as well.

Power Armor is also inferior to MJOLNIR. You just can't argue this one. In fact, I'd like to you try to.

MARK VI MJOLNIR is hardened against EMP and Radiation, composed of alloys coated in a refractive substance to disperse energy and explosive weapons, has a Mind Impulse unit, is energy shielded, able to link with a AI, self-healing via biofoam, has Armor Abilities and can self-upgrade.

That's standard issue for a Spartan. Hands-down, the Astartes have no chance against a Spartan-II in MJOLNIR.

You keep saying that Spartans are highly trained veterans. But the oldest surviving Spartan II is in his 40s or 50s, depending on if his cryo-sleep slows the aging process. Astartes live for centuries, the oldest outside of a dreadnought is over a thousand years old. MJOLNIR armor is made with technology from 500 years from now, Astartes power armor is technology developed during the Dark Age of Technology, a time when Mankind was equal to or more advanced than the Forerunners. Their weapons and armor might not be understood by the people who build them, but that doesn't change their lethality. A bolter is a semi-automatic rocket launcher, a power sword can cleave through most armor.

You say gene seed is static, of course it is. Geneseed is genetic material created from the DNA of literal demigods ten thousand years before by a god in human form. Spartans are just tinker toys compared to that. The UNSC has maybe 500 Spartan IVs. I'll give you 750 to be generous. The Imperium has one thousand chapters of Astartes each a thousand strong. Of course they are spread across the width and breadth of the galaxy, which bring another point. The UNSC at its peak before the Covenant War, controlled a fair portion of the Orion Arm, and maybe 800 worlds. The Imperium has a million worlds. Saying the UNSC could beat the Imperium is like saying Russia could defeat America. Rebuttal: Spartans can reproduce. Spartan 1.1s, my boy

The Imperium had said God-Emperor, ungodly dangerous FTL Travel and is technologically stagnant.

In contrast, UNSC humanity did all this without the aid of the Emperor, has safe FTL travel and is constantly advancing.

And so you get a spartan to knock a girl up, so what? That doesn't make another spartan. If you think that's how it works you have no idea how babies are made beyond penis in a vagina.

The Imperium technology is stagnant because he's half dead and wired into a giant space light house. Its decaying, that's half the point of the story, this is literally the worst possible outcome for mankind's future. They are technological stagnant because the Mechanium has no idea how its technology works. That doesn't mean its technology isn't unimaginable powerful. The technology we're talking about was invented during the greatest period of scientific advancement in human history. The UNSC is 500 years from, the Dark Age of Technology is 23,000. If we're talking about the Imperium at the time of Great Crusade, UNSC is double fucked because instead of facing a thousand Astartes, you're facing hundreds of thousands. A single Legion would defeat the UNSC at its pre Covenant War peak. Just one more pretender to mankind's destiny amongst the stars.