Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-203.134.114.240-20130721023526/@comment-203.134.114.2-20130723133028

Shas'o'Kais wrote: "often they sent in a Imperial Diplomat to have peace talks to new alien species asking them to leave them alone."

This basically never happens. The only time I can think of was peace talks with Tau.

"Furthermore life in the IoM is incredibly varied, sure there are shit-holes such as Catachan for example, but there are some where it is a Paradise world or even democratic. The only thing you need to do in a IoM world is to pray for the Emprah, pay your taxes, and don't go into Chaos."

And also pay the manpower tithe to the Imperial Guard, yield your psyker population to the Black ships, etc. Paradise worlds are for the rich only, whilst democratic worlds make no difference to the general populace themselves. The conditions are just as bad as everywhere else, only the way leadership is selected is different.

"Also there were even cases of Xeno living quite comfortebly in the Imperium,"

Jokaero are one of the only few that come to the mind. There are barely any others at all. The Imperium exterminates all xenos races it comes across, whether they are peaceful or not. They do not negotiate, only wage war.

"hell there was even Ork merceneries working with the Ordo Xenos."

Extreme cases by Radical Inquisitors.

"There was also some Imperial Planets who wanted to ally with the Eldar, the reason why they haven't went HERETIC! is because those aliens are considered not a threat to the Imperium or are under extreme watch."

Where is this from?

"Compared this to the Tau who not only brainwash you"

Lies and internet rumour. This has never been proven in canon, its merely a half-baked theory by an Imperial scholar. Naturally the Imperium sees the darker side of things.

"but attempt to ask aliens to join or die"

The Tau give multiple surrender requests as they conquer. Those races that would deny them all wipe themselves out. The Demiurg are also not part of the Tau Empire and declined membership, but are trading partners and not conquered.

"Whats even worse is that they are a caste system"

For biological reasons. All castes are equal and perform different roles with the exception of the Ethereals which are more important. This does not mean that they are 'bad'.

"and aliens who join them are pretty much slaves of the slaves."

Another internet claim. Member races are treated properly and are not slaves. They are integrated into appropiate roles in the Tau Empire. Just as all Tau fufil a role, so do the member races. For example, there's this worm race that assembles plasma generators alongside the Earth Caste.

"Those who object, even peacefully, are conqured and forcefully segregated all in the name of the 'Greater Good'."

Not necessarily. See Demiurg case above. Very few races do go peacefully anyway.

"Whats even more worse is that compared to the IoM, who at least has standards of leaving you alone so long as your not a threat."

And where did this idea come from? So launching crusades into space to eradicate everything they find is leaving you alone?

"The Tau Never leave you alone. Dosen't sound so accepting right?"

Just because they don't leave you alone doesn't mean they are not accepting. They just want to spread the happiness...

"Furthermore (Correct me if I am wrong) the Imperium only declared war to the Tau because they found out that they were secretley converting and conquering Imperial planets right?"

They declared war because the Tau were xenos. They needed no other reason.

The Tau are not awesomely goody goody, but they are far above the Imperium. What does the Imperium have? Slave labour? check. Penal colonies? check. Uncaring of individuals? check. Press ganging? check. Xenocide? check. Purging of its own populations? check. The list goes on and on and on.......

If you really want to, just go ask a Gue'vesa. They are a lot better off in the Empire than the Imperium, and are happy for it. Wait..Oh I see what you did there o_<

Dang it! More Tau propoganda! Quickly where is the Ecclesiarchy and Inquisition to deal with this extra heresy! The Emperor even tried to ally with the Eldar, hell pre-heresy IoM is more lenient then the Tau would ever hope to achieve. Your arguement is invalid XD