Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-112.207.255.135-20161026083000/@comment-3055683-20161031061016

Let me chime in for a moment..

Both of you have valid points, but I think your both misunderstanding each others' arguments. A Fandom User is trying to point out that even though Magnus knew he had done wrong by violating the Emperor's Dictat Absolute in regards to the use of sorcery and the study of the arcane, in his hearts he knew that he was still basically loyal to the Emperor. Hence, why he chose to blind his own Legion to the approaching Space Wolves fleet as well as ordering his sons that were away from the home world to flee to parts unknown. Granted, Magnus might have felt that he was still loyal, but his own actions damned him from the beginning. As he delved too far into the Immaterium and made a deal with Tzeentch to save his Legion from genetic mutation, but in the end, his own arrogance, hubris and pride is what damned him. Doesn't matter if his intentions were good or not, his actions spoke volumes...he violated the Edict of Nikaea, he continued delving into the arcane, and he utilised sorcery (of all things) to send a warning to the Emperor...Not too bright on his part. If anything, he should've done like Dorn did, when he was back on Terra trying to recall all his Imperial Fists, and utilise as many Astropaths to send a psychic signal back to Terra. Hell, he successfully did so by penetrating the Ruinstorm and getting a message to the Imperial Fists' retribution fleet during the Battle of Phall, so don't tell me it couldn't be done.

On the other hand, in retrospect Neithan02 is also correct. Yes, the Space Wolves wouldn't have questioned Horus' orders, as he was basically the supreme commander of the entire Great Crusade after the Emperor departed back to Terra, and was therefore the de facto leader in place of the Emperor as both proxy and speaking on His behalf. Not to mention they were loyal to a fault and always obeyed the word of the Emperor, and since Horus basically was acting as the Emperor's proxy, they wouldn't even think to question such orders. Granted, you can hypothesize about the 'what ifs' until the cows come home..but it boils down to they were just doing their job, which was to act as the Emperor's executioners, since they had received 'legitimate' orders (at least to them, at the time), therefore, they carried out their duties to the letter.

So basically, you both have valid points. But your beating a dead horse. People are going to make up their minds regardless of facts or the truth of the situation. All I can say is, read the source material and make up your OWN mind. Opinions are like that certain orifice on our bodies, that we all have...just saying. 'Nuff said!