Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25686730-20141212030710/@comment-6078851-20141216172329

yeah, rendering a planet inhabatible is easy for many factions in 40k. not so easy for individuals but definitely possible for a single, top tier, thousand son sorceror, which is what i was getting at. destroy can mean cease to exist, but mostly it means - pull to pieces, demolish, annihilate. when 2 cars destroy each other in a crash they don't cease to exist, they're just destroyed :P

my mistake about fenris, i'm not actually familiar with the battle of the fang.

i agree that lorgar has more willpower, determination and charisma. his willpower and determination though is boosted by the fact that he's a zealot who worships beings who respond to his zealotry. magnus' determination on the other hand is based on aquiring knowledge and distilling and refining power from such knowledge, but his determination turned out to be somewhat influenced by beings he despises, and as such his willpower would have taken a serious blow from this, and after having to be saved by tzeentch he was probably utterly crushed for some time. if they came to blows it would be a fight between magnus' power and lorgar's determination, willpower and faith. personally i believe magnus would still wipe the floor with lorgar, although i also agree it would most likely be a vicious fight, but that fight would almost certainly never happen since, as you say, they're pretty good buddies, especially for daemon-primarchs :P