Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-37.152.33.225-20131111163502/@comment-8881468-20131213141132

logan grimnar= chapter master, not primarch, he was leading equals/addressing equals not people inferior to him.

phoenix lords are, by far, not as powerful as a primarch,  avatars maybe, yet those to not actively lead a warhost. necron overlords were de facto, mortal rulers, turned immortal, yet that does not change their pre immortal habits or "gifts" as far as thinking and so on.

Banishment back into the warp is probably the only thing possible with ademon, as those can never be truly annihilatedn (aside from strong psychic attacks by empi like status.

i look at it from the standpoint of what they did, rule to me is simply administration and not just military command.

actually the type of rule is relevant as we are debating tzhe effects of a returning priomarch. you come from the standpoint of splitting up the imperium/takingh a paert from it outside of the rule of mortals and giving a being a domain to see as he sees fit without really anybody being able to say anyhting, coz it is a primarch. would such methods be applicable on a biger scale/ would they work?.. doubtful (i am not going into detail here but can do so if asked to).

we can only judge angron by his actions and even though the nails were hurting, they did not diminish his ability to lead a crusade now, did they?

usa could have continued to bomb japan with incendiaries to get what they had already wanted, japan had already lost most of it#s manpwoer and industry. and tbh communism was already moving forward in east and west and it had already been senn a sthreat prior to ww2, why do you think did the brits and us comply so much with Hitler#s "heim ins reich"?

imperial truth lorgar and purging of his homeworld of those thta had othert beliefs are actually 2 things that happened with decades between them. he was chastised for worshipping the emperor/spreading his interpretation in the great crusade, that has little to do with his genociodal campaing on his homeworld.

it means that russ has never ruled/deemed it necesary to rule/improve the situation of the inhabitants of fenris (with a reason, we have to add, yet still he did not govern his peopel so we cannot really say anyhting about his skill).

the orders were monastries of fighters that tried to protect the calibanites, they were an army, not enforcers of (social) juistice, dealings of the common people and so on. again no ciovilian body of government, merely an army.

sorry but you really dare to use the fucked up USA as an example, sry you guys over there do not even understand the concept of socialism nor things like structural poverty and so on. many were elected because they were war heroes, i give you that, what makes a better flagship person than somebody who is known by many people to be a man of action and renown... I mean the US has also voted in actors of people like  Jesse Ventura into office.

Many of the poroblems of the USA stem back to their early beginnings and a non adaptation of their rules to current problems/tasks.. i mean that federalist system is a load of crap, the usa did not really experience social stress that much earlier because of the "frontier" and so on and so forth. (i could really ramble on a long time here) ^^