Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-24821739-20140604204305/@comment-96.237.78.233-20140613165035

As a side note The Emperor has the power to unleash any - or all - of the surviving primarchs at any time, one of his living saints could easily heal Guilliman for instance. I believe he is waiting until he is ready to take on the ruinous powers in the warp before bring his surviving sons back to smack down Abbadon & co so as to improve humanity's chances following The Emperor's final rise to godhood in the warp.

Wishful thinking. Only the Lion in regards to your first statement. All others are to be presumed deceased including Gulliman. An imperial saint is nothing to Slaanesh who is likely aware that Gulliman must not recover. As far as him getting ready to fight the 4 Chaos Bros in the warp. Maybe, but hasn't he been doing that all along? Isn't it more like they are attacking him, not the other way around. That's why he can't do more in real space.

Now even if there was a return of a handful of primarchs they wouldn't defeat Abbadon. Abbadon would just retreat to the Black Legion's nebula in the Eye of Terror and if the Imperials pursue they would have to face Mortarion and Perturabo first since Metrengard and the Plague Planet are early into the Eye. Both basically the epitome of attrition and endurance. In the meantime all the eye would rally with Abbadon. Lorgar would probably rally everybody to explosive fanaticism. The other Deamon Primarchs, at least 50 Greater Deamons with respective hosts, other Princes with their hosts, basically a myriad of slaughter would what the loyalist be facing. Daemon Primarchs would still outnumber the loyal Primarchs, not to mention they are much more powerful now while we have no reason to believe that the loyalists would be also. A return of the Primarchs would not mean destruction of the traitors perhaps only a more efficient defense from incursions.

Although the Emperor could defeat the Ruinous powers (as he has a number of times) he can not annihilate them. While it does seem like they could him. If E becomes a god when he dies that's a different story, he could then, but right now he is just the psycher to rule all psychers. He is not a primordial being that exists on the essence of beings. E ain't no god! He never said he was, Lorgar did! If he is headed to godhood in death, if that is even the case and he is not just dying slowly, that the Four Ruinous Powers and the minor gods will probably be there in person to prevent it. Like Khorne swinging the End of all Things and Slaanesh killing entire Pantheons there. E's chances will be slim that day.