Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-6078851-20150628150826/@comment-67.255.38.156-20160222185352

ZiXIS wrote: Yea... the problem with your statement is that you yourself don't know how the Emperor will become a warp god. Once his boby dies, it will be the end of the Imperium.

Powerful entities like Eldar and Chaos Gods were not previous mortals, they were created from feelings and thoughts. Despite the Emperor being one of the most powerful psykers, he is still a mortal being. It does not matter how many religious followers the Emepror has, this will not help him to become a god.

In short, a realspace being cannot be elevated to a status of a god-like being in the warp. You have the Star Gods and the Old Ones, but none of them were able to manifest themselves as Gods in the warp.

Like I said, you can keep dreaming on about the idea. This is you right, and no one can change that. But most likely, it will stay that way. Gotta come back and respond to this. You do understand / realize the Emperor is not a mortal being... correct? He is the culmination of all of humanities greatest psykers / wisemen combined, because when the Gods of Chaos were being born great sorcerors were getting their souls devoured after death. He's technically an unknown number, possibly tens of thousands, of souls in one body. "One of the most powerful psykers" - he is pretty much a god of the material plane and is anathema to the Chaos Gods, he is *the most* powerful psyker to ever exist.

It's confirmed canon that the Emperor rose and wanted to exist long enough for humanity to "transcend" into the most psychically gifted race in the galaxy. If the Eldar who were likely much less numerous than humans, why would it not make sense for humans in turn to create a god through their collective consciousness? There are plenty of emotions not reflected in the warp, and if the Eldar could do it then so can humanity.

It's also almost 100% likely that the Emperor is perpetual. He's almost 50,000 years old, literally one-shot Horus with his mind, build a webway alone, tricked the Chaos gods and almost killed them. If a perpetual dies, they come back to life as long as even one cell is left in their body (Vulkan?). Not to mention the fact that no being in the history of the 40k storyline ever managed to do what the Emperor's collective consciousness managed to do. He became anathema to the warp and immune to Daermons by binding untold consciousness' into an immortal soul. What happens to the soul of an immortal when it dies? We don't know, so you can't say he's wrong.

" It does not matter how many religious followers the Emepror has, this will not help him to become a god. "

Unclear... His will and power manifest in the Sisters of Battle, his spirit alone is essentially keeping another EoT opening up on Earth. No information in 40k states that worship / belief does not create Gods.

" You have the Star Gods and the Old Ones, but none of them were able to manifest themselves as Gods in the warp."

That's because they are / never were gods? The Old Ones are absolutely a biological life-form that came about naturally, they were just advanced. I don't remember seeing any information about them being super powerful psykers or they wouldn't have needed the Eldar to begin with. The C'Tan hate the warp, I'm not really sure what your point with that was. The C'Tan were not gods.

" In short, a realspace being cannot be elevated to a status of a god-like being in the warp. You have the Star Gods and the Old Ones, but none of them were able to manifest themselves as Gods in the warp."

The end all be all closing statement, is that nobody knows if that's true or not. Just because none of them have done it, doesn't mean it can't be done. The Emperor is not a single person, and is certainly not normal by any means. He's a completely unique psychic conglomerate of souls.