Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-18016240-20140115163511/@comment-2253300-20140122023004

If you are looking for their forefather I would go with either thr Ultramarines or the Imperial Fists. To me the Marines Malevolent are being massive jerks because they are angry or sadistic. They're being jerks because they are arrogant as Hell. The reason why Tushan got pissed, besides the Salamanders being the teddy bears of the SM world, is because the MMs caused unnecessary casualities simply because they didn't feel like spending the time and energy to fight the Orks in order to spare lives. There are plenty of Chapters that are even more blood-thirsty and dismissive towards human life, but what really struck a sour note was that the MMs caused unnecessary death because they thought themselves too important to risk scratching their armor against some Orks. This hubris and lack of honor is the real reason they are hated.