Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-14745711-20140911102114/@comment-6078851-20140913141631

yeah false gods i think, when the gods are 'wooing' horus by showing him the vision of what will happen if he doesn't oppose emps, but in actual fact he's being shown what happens because he opposed emps. part of the vision is seeing the gene-labs and the 20 capsules, and looking at a few he see's one with wings, one that's twins, and the II or XI that has too many arms.

a little off topic now but in that scene it seems as though horus was actually there in person: emps walks in and see's, where there isn't supposed to be anyone, a seemingly malevolent figure, alarms are raised, custodes rush in, and horus is spirited away. the warp can occasionally spit ships out in different times-periods, but this heavily implies that the gods, if they're working together, can actually send a being to a specific point in time. that could, theoretically, lead to a plan such as sending a daemon primarch back in time to kill the family that emps was born into, as well as the infant emperor, if the gods could ever unite again as they did for the heresy :P