Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20141214213749/@comment-33670095-20180306151456

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"Now to your claim that the Planets would be impossible to patrol and maintain: Hyperspace travel is extremely fast as far as Space travel goes. A Patrol could Visit one Star System with X planets every 15 minutes ( 10 minutes calculating a jump and 5 jumping).The Empire most likely had at least 25 Million ships that would be able to patrol, them having 25.000+ Battle Ships."

If it is in the star wars universe, yes, it would be easy, but it would be next too impossible to do it in the 40k universe since they have no lanes mapped out and that takes either century's or decades, I can't remember which off the top of my head, but, it's a while. If they are patroling Star Wars, ISD's and bigger would be EXTREMELY rare, only protecting key locations or planets, not some outer rim colony, that would be for things like Carrack crusier's, Dreadnought Heavy Cruiser's (My fav ship), and MAYBE Victory class's at some key locations that don't class as needing a ISD. These ships would be VERY screwed since they don't have the firepower alone, or in groups of what would noramlly be like 4-10 maybe to take on the normal 3-5 attack ships in an Imperial battle group, with much bigger capital ships used for dealing with the bigger groups and bigger ships. The only major threat on smaller palnets would MAYBE be if they have a planety hyper velocity gun.

"(Note AT-ATs are troop transports not battle tanks.)"

What? Since when? I know it can carry troops and some speeder's, but that doesn't make it not a battle tank too. THe clone H-6 Juggurant could carry a lot of clones, but that doesnt mean it wasne't a mobile tank too.

"But the idea of every Guardsman being the insanely brave and trailed by fire veteran is wrong. First of Imperial Guards run very often both in the games and in the books. Yes we are occasionally get treated to a stand to last man or a commissar reinforcing order by shooting someone. But those are noteworthy occasions because they are not the norm. Not all regiments are battle hardened and even those that are generally have to replace so many casualties after a campaign that calling them green would not be wrong. Commissars (like psykers) are more of one per regiment stock than each squad gets it own."

Yes, most regiments are just some PDF that have gotten attacked by Ork's, but, more often then not, they wouldn't be the guys being thrown at you unless they other planet has just that bad of a defense force themselfs.

"Did I miss were i said that the Dauntless were not 4,5 Kilometers long? Length and even size does not equal Mass. A balloon can be larger than me, but can easily be only a fraction of my mass. And the Mass commonly given for Imperium ships should allow them to float on water."

The difference between you an a ballon is the insides, both a ISD and Dauntless have intrior's, aswell as armor, so yes, it would VERY much weigh more since you have to remember that with the length comes all the stuff INSIDE the ships from deck's, to tool's, to fighter's and ammo, so, yes, it HEAVILY out weigh's an ISD. Also, where are you getting your mass for Imperieum ships from? I have never heard about that before.

"In terms of manoeuvrability it would be in the starfighter class and terms of destructive force in the cruiser class."

Wha...What? No...Just...No, even a frigate would not be anywhere close to being  "Like a star fighter", there is just so much just wrong with that it hurts my head...

"Your calcs are wrong from the get go. If an ordnance is given at a kiloton then your calc ends right there, because kiloton is the yield/force you get at hit location, impact point, explosion point etc and not the weight of the Ordnance."

No, it wouldn't, when you are using a bullet, the weight and speed that it travel's would have HUGE effects on how much energy it can output, not to mention, it will go faster and hit deeper then if it was shot with a less powerful gun. Their is a big difference between the damage a throwen bullet, and a shoot bullet are capable of.