Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25507520-20150422230011/@comment-28917471-20150508162753

Callummacdonald79 wrote: why not? it's essentially the same process, the big differences being that the eldar havn't committed mass suicide and that eldar souls are being actively hunted by a chaos god.

when the shaman suicided their souls weren't being actively sought by a chaos god, allowing time for their collective souls to gather into a single entity, plus they all died at pretty much the same time - increasing the potency of the act and reducing the amount of time between all their deaths and the creation of a new 'supersoul'. since the eldar aren't all dying at once and their souls are being relentlessly preyed upon, they need spirit stones to hold onto their souls until such a time when they are all (or nearly all) dead, and can then infuse a new being with life.

emps is the collective soul of all the psychic humans of that time. eldar (all of them) are way more psychic than humans and the creation of ynnead will be using, not just the eldar of this era but almost every eldar of the last 20,000ish years. at the very least ynnead has the potential to be the equivalent of emps for the eldar, except that because of the psychic nature of the eldar he/she/it has the potential to be far more powerful than emps. and if emps can cause grief to the chaos gods on his own, then the birthing of ynnead could spell the actual downfall of them. and while eldar and human don't really get on i could see emps and ynnead being on good terms - good enough to tag-up against the gods :) First of all, the souls of the shamans were a delicacy to the daemons that lived in the warp at that time, the inability of the shamans to reincarnate ( you know why) was the reason why the shamans made the mass-suicide in the first place. And no, there were the daemons who tried to devour the collective souls of those shamans that killed themselves, but could not do it, because of the massive amounts of souls that have gathered to create a new entity.

You do know that only the souls of those eldars that are in the Infinity Circuits will be used to create Ynnead, right? Every other eldar soul is currently being tortured by Slannesh, or just lives in the spirit stone that is somewhere in the realspace... and the others live in the World Spirit (they won't take part in the creation). That's it.

The shamans took a risk of creating the "New Man". The Eldars, unlike humans, do not take such foolish risks. They plan their moves for the next centuries to come, and they do not toy with their lifes. This is the reason why they just don't kill themselves all at the same time. Plus, the craftworlds harbour diffirent cultures, leaders, goals and etc... how and why would they take such a big risk?

Nothing is said about Ynnead kiilling the Chaos Gods. The Eldars only speak about how Ynnead will take down Slaanesh. That's it. I don't think that Ynnead have enough power to kill all the Chaos Gods.

You could see Ynnead and the Emperor team up against the Chaos Gods? Well... you can keep dreaming, I can tell you that. Don't forget that the Eldars wish to rebuiled their Empire, and with the rise of Ynnead, that dream could come true. The Eldars just wish to exterminate mankind and rise again as the dominate race.