Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-117.192.179.237-20131224182556/@comment-108.20.13.234-20131224211639

Especially if he is a centuries old Chapter Master in Terminator Armor, with a power great sword, who has succumbed to the Black Rage and is Death Company, but also has given in to the Red Thirst all his career in blood drinking rights because that's what his chapter, the Blood Drinkers, do. (This beast of a Chapter Master can be found in Death of Integrity A Space Marines Battles Novel.)

I would say close combat peaks just around here. Both loyalist and traitor.

In regards to Chaos SMarines. World Eaters are very close combat effective yes, but don't forget so are the Emperor's Children. Their skill in swordsmanship is rarely matched. The WE have lost battles because they are so insane in close combat, they can be outmaneuvered easily. The Blood Angels (and friends) are better at preventing this. The World Eaters were never that impressive to me honestly. The Emperor's Children is a much better all around army, but smaller. Also the Iron Warriors boast some close combat prestige. And the Black Legion too. But Blood Angels (and successors) take it.