Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-88.114.255.138-20130111160957/@comment-93.105.182.213-20160317185144

37.152.33.225 - I could accept your response if not for 2 major flaws. First is that Alivia Sureka herself stated that the Emperor before entering the portal looked like a simple perpetual, he might hiden most of his powers, but that is also wierd considering when he walked out of the portal she says hes aura changed.

The second and the most important, is that during the confrontation between horus and emperor, it is stated horus uses the power and knowledge gained on molech to hurt his father. The attacks that are fueled with power gained on molech bater and hurt the emperor, something not even ctan managed to do.