Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-112.207.224.117-20160114023716/@comment-112.207.235.145-20160417125835

86.174.91.93 wrote: Yeah maybe you should leave the conversation. Either that or leave spouting off your opinion was fact, when it is indeed still just opinion.

You seem to have missed the point that I wasn't saying either way, that it was definative -Loyal or traitor, but that people can read various motives his actions.

Given that the overall result maybe that he is acting loyal and well and good, that is not the same as never straying or being...less than full of integrity.

I think he probably is loyal, over all, but everyone is capable or erring and doing things which may well not actually stand up to close scrutiny.

What would the Emperor say for example if he knew the Lion had allowed his fellow legions to fight each other or take advice from that sphere (Really need to read it again, sure it was chaotic or devious or some such).

Similar to lying my omission, then someone can be loyal in action only etc. It's not starkly black and white is the point to be seen.

Regarding the Chaos thing, it can be read that the Emperor got a measure (certainly not all and not quantified) of his knowledge/power/abilities/experiences after dealing in someway with Chaos. It is hinted at elsewhere but mentioned most clearly in 'Vengeful Spirit'

Think in the ever evolving lore of GWS, we should keep an open mind and see what the books reveal. you got your point