Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20141206200938/@comment-8881468-20141231195257

@ master.. sorry for me to actually link my statements to the lore  should we really go on about the way the porimarchs differ from one another on a genetic level, as is made clear in deliverance lost, should we go on about how they take certain things from their primarchs, as is told in the tome of fire trilogy, should we go on about the function of the ultramarines as is explained in "know no fear"  should we go on about the wolves killing off a legion, as is explained in " burning of prospero"  i could go on but such discussions only work when people are on the same level of knowledge and you have a lot to read up on ;)

the only things that are changed, are their blood, many organs, their bone structure, we know that marines are implanted prior to becoming full adults ( aka before many things are actually in place), and  we know that their physiology, chemistry and so on are changed, their genetic structure is influenced, otherwise the changes would not be explainable.

their genetics are changed so much that marines f.e. cannot procreate anymore, that their blood is different, that several organs  are implanted in a way that normally overloads a lot of the existing nerves and organs ( see blood ravens trilogy, book 2)

also: several legions never recruited only from one planet, take the ultramarines with their recruitment base of ~ 500 worlds ( aka ultramar), same goes for f.e. word beareres, world eaters, imperial fists ( which was a space-borne legion)

[quote]The Iron Warriors et al didn’t seem too bothered with looting Imperial Fist gene seeds, they mocked   those created from it, but coped without destroying themselves. [/quote] so you wanna compare a 40k chaos corrupted gene- see that cannot be passed on to newer generations to f.e. a 30k neophyte? the iron warrios take other gene-seed because they have no source for pure gene-seed from perturabo. they would simply not be able to induct new marines without foreign sources of material.

since the primarchs differ in their genetic structure a lot ( as is explanied in f.e. deliverance lost, any codex and many novels)  we should be talking about either xenogenetic or allogenetic transplantations, as far as quality is concerned, all primarchs are of the same level ( pointed out in "pandorax"), meaning you would have those implants, if from mixed primarchs, fight one another constantly as to influence the body of the organ receiver according to the specifications in their genetic make-up.

which would mean that you would for as long as that conflict rages, have to pump the organism of the receiver with auto-immune- suppressants, and that does never sound like a battle- worthy marine. ( whjich is actually simple medicine, you might wanna read up on that)

okay let us move on

the legions all bear specific genetic markers ( corax eyes, vulkan's skin and so on, also they have 20 implants modified in certain ways of not functioning and whatnot.  making a distiinction on a biological level visible. and honey, common sense: if you have several thousand astartes with the same difference from "standard legion gene-seed", they will stand out

3. what do we know about the operation of the legions, however: we do know that each legion had specific tactics and traits originating from their primarch and prior experiences. we do know that each legion would go on about their business differently, would have different quirks, honor systems, formations and whatnot, they all acted so well only because they knew how the people around them fought, because all went through the same indoctrination. without maintaning visibility of difference on a tac tical and genetic level, you would not make 2 legions get an objective. they would be able to tell an iron warrior from an ultramarine exactly by their behavior, by their strategies and preferences, by their genetic material and so on.

just a simple question; would you ask your sniper to become a tank driver, or work in an assault team after you have spent a long time in training, honing skills and so on. you do not teach an old dog new tricks. marines are indoctrinated and taught how to go on about things when they are young, you will not get their routines out of them. just as you would never get your instinct responses changed so much that new ones become instinct, which would be decisive for their reaction speed and effectiveness on the battlefield.