Thread:Dissonantcry/@comment-3055683-20121112233735

Dissonantcry, After reading over the conversation on my Message Wall in regards to the Imperial Fists, I'm forced by the rules of this wiki to temporarily ban you for thirty days. I totally understand your argument in regards to the Pre-Heresy Imperial Fists image on the Imperial Fists article. As I explained, this was the original artwork Games Workshop had come up with when they originally released the Index Astartes article, and as Montonius explained, Games Workshop did not yet know at the time what mark of power armour the Legiones Astartes had access to during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras.

With the release of the Horus Heresy novels and the recent additions of the Imperial Armour books, they have only just begun to shed some light on this bygone era. As you pointed out, yes, Montonius was incorrect when he stated, "that is the current only known canon image of an Imperial Fists Space Marine from the Great Crusade and Heresy era." This was obviously incorrect, as you pointed out, as there are more up-to-date images of Pre-Heresy Imperial Fists wearing Mark III armour on the over of the "Shadows of Treachery" Novel. I would also like to point out that there are multiple images of pre-heresy Imperial Fists images in the Horus Heresy: Collected Visions artbooks. As I pointed out, there is a also a brief description of 'Void Hardened' power armour worn by Shield Breaker squads used by the Imperial Fists during boarding actions due to the lack of availability of Terminator Armour during the early days of the Heresy.

Keeping all this in mind, Montonius did try to explain that we try to keep all the Space Marine Chapter articles uniform in appearance by using only schematic type images for both Post-Heresy and Pre-Heresy appearances. He also apologized for his oversight in stating that there was only one current image when he stated, "Everybody makes mistakes, and we do our best to remain as accurate as possible."

Now, when he asked you to politely refrain from having an aggressive attitude, you obviously took offense to this suggestion and blatantly made some off-color remarks showing your displeasure to this suggestion. If you were taking issue with our senior moderator, I wish you would have contacted me so that we could have worked out your grievances. But by making such rude and immature comments on someone's Talk Page, you have violated this wiki's policies on 'Talk Page Insults or Harassment,' which clearly states: ''All editors of the Warhammer 40k Wiki are expected to operate according to mature, professional standards of conduct and behaviour. Any unwanted insulting language or verbal harassment of any kind directed from one editor to another or to an Administrator on the Talk Pages or other public pages of the wiki will result in an immediate and permanent ban from the wiki by the Administrators against the offending editor. This is a one-strike policy with no appeal; certain types of behaviour are simply not tolerated.''

By only banning you for thirty days, I'm being more than generous, as Montonius does not tolerate harassment or offending behavior of any type on this wiki. Keep in mind that he is the senior moderator, and ultimately it will be up to him whether or not your are permanently banned. Whether you like his response or not to your comments, you still have to keep in mind that he is the senior moderator of this wiki and is the ultimate authority in how it is run. You don't have to necessarily agree with his responses or even like the person making them, but as a mature adult, I would expect someone to at least give Montonius the respect he deserves as our senior administrator on this wiki. I apologize up front for the misunderstanding and hope that some kind of consensus can eventually be reached between you and Montonius in the near future.  