Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20150604030859/@comment-6078851-20150605174254

i would like to point out that emps never created, nor attempted to create, a human webway. the webway was created by the old ones and inherited by the eldar (eldar lack the knowledge to repair the webway or even make new portals into it). the intent of the 'imperial webway project' was to force a way into the webway from terra and essentially hijack it from the eldar. even emps lacked the knowledge to make webway portals - the part of the golden throne emps used to access the webway, while dating from around the dark age of technology, wasn't built by humans, but was xeno archeotech, which emps knew how to use but not replicate.

curze was insane, loyal or not there's no changing that. angron was subjected to the butchers nails (also no changing that), but despite the psychologically detrimental effects of them he was, eventually, loyal to emps, even while hating him for 'saving' angron from a glorious death beside his brothers. but though tzeentch had his claws in magnus pretty much from the get-go (again, no changing that), magnus was very loyal, right up to the point when emps set the dogs on him, and the only reason he gave himself to tzeentch was to save his legion: if the heresy didn't happen i could see magnus remaining loyal, even knowing that tzeentch had a hold on him. but for the 2 missing primarchs, they were dead/missing/traitor/whatever before the end of the crusade and before the heresy, so even under the most optimistic circumstances there would only be 18 primarchs in a post-non-heresy imperium.