Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20150604030859/@comment-25177957-20150604205416

ZiXIS wrote: 1. I know about the apartments on Terra, I did not bring that up because I knew about the contradiction that someone  (in this case you) would say. The Primarchs are (or at least were) loyal to the Emperor, everything he said goes (the Primarchs knows what happened to those that have failed their father - they get sanctioned). Besides, he could just gather all the Primarchs on Terra or Maccarge and order them to enter a deep sleep (or he could have tricked them).

You've also missed the main question. Imperial Fist asked us what would happen if the Great Crusade would be complete and there would be no civil war. While you are saying that the civil war is inevitable.

2. Not all human civilizations were zealous devotes of religion. Some planets were a highly developed technological socities. The Imperial Truth was enforced by the Imperial forces, anyone who would worship the Emperor as a god was risking his life. Lorgar has conquered the smallest amounts of planets in comparison with other Legions, I don't think that it would be enough to spread the religion across the whole Imperium. Plus, the Emperor would most likely start to purge those planets as something that were against his believe.

And why wouldn't the Inquisition exist? Chaos cults and planetary rebellions could still rise up, aliens could still infiltrate Imperial planets, daemons could have still enter realspace. Who would see this coming? Space Marines? Imperial Army? The Holy Ordos would still rise regardless of the outcome of the Great Crusade, because no one else would be able to secretly contain the Imperium of Man.

3. You are right about the psychic powers.

4. The phrase must have came after the Horus Heresy, and it was also said by a faithful devote of an Ecclesiarchy (the phrase most likely implies on the need to defend the Imperium, rather than start various conflicts). The Imperium would still have to face all other enemies, which are: Orks, eldars, dark eldars, Necrons, renegade factions, new found independent human civilisations, pirates and more...

So because the Emperor knew that his Great Crusade would fail, he had the Imperial Webway constructed for what exactly? To kill some time? 1.The Primarchs were completely loyal to the Emperor? I don't think so, Lorgar was already turning away from the Emperor, Angron was too wild to control properly, Konrad Kurze was insane, and the Blade of the Laer had already been corrupting Fulgrim. Not to mention that the apointment of Horus as Warmaster and the retreat of the Emperor to Terra divided him and his sons further apart and two Primarchs already had to be killed for unknown reasons, and the primarchs had rivalries between each other. Sure the Emperor might have been able to trick them into stasis, provided they're even in the same segmentum of the galaxy! The Primarchs were everywhere, and if the Great Crusade was victorious, some Primarchs might be completely across the galaxy from Terra, who's to say whether or not Chaos would fully corrupt one of the Primarchs who are so far away from their brothers? Imperial Fist's question is "what if there was no Horus Heresy" (that leaves much room for speculation any how, we might not have a Horus Heresy, but what if we had a Dornian Heresy for example) not just an absence of rebelion in general.

2.There would be way more planets worshipping the Emperor as a God if he had won the Great Cruasde, the very fact that he and his armies took over an entire, or most of the galaxy would certainly qualify him as a G