Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-37.152.33.225-20131111163502/@comment-6078851-20131220044134

just pointing out that horus didn't stand a chance against emps even with his inumerable chaotic gifts and blessings. are we forgetting that emps was holding back for the entire fight? only once emps realized that horus was beyond any sort of redemption did he actually start to fight in earnest, whereupon horus was destroyed, completely, unequivocally, and ''immediately. ''so if the emps - primarch - astartes comparisons hold any water then an astartes should never be able to take a primarch, and likewise a human should never be able to take an astartes (at least not without significant augmentation or corruption).

as for the russ vs lion feud: while it set up the continual animosity and ritual duels between their chapters, the feud between the primarchs only lasted the one fight. i can't remember where i read it but they both nursed their bruised ego's for a bit and then forgave each other, and thereafter embarked upon a couple of campaigns together, to great effect, amicably.