Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-4851119-20140323173912/@comment-4851119-20140421094611

.Talik wrote: Hereticalthoughts wrote: Except that the marines they use in starcraft are really just glorified guardsmen, as said before their armor is more just to lift their weapons and act as a hazmat suit than to actually protect them from damage, Hellbats and marauders have better armor, but they're specialist units and still lose out to space marines or SOB on the armor and weapons front. If a zergling's claws can rip through a starcraft marine's suit, then a guardsman's lasgun will punch through no problem, nevermind a bolter or plasma gun.

Yes, the thor, which would likely still get blown away by the warhound or imperator titans.

As for ghosts, the Imperium has psykers who can blow up planets and they have space marines who specialize in stealth a la Ravenguard, not too mention Culexus assassins who specialize in killing psychics and their very appearance is enough to short circuit a psyker. 1) yes, well, if marines ever fight guardsmen, im still putting my money on the marines.

2) Firebat vs. space marine I can buy the space marine would win, but honestly I say a marauder kills a space marine due to, you know, dual-wielding semi-automatic RPG's. I know SM weapons are much teh same, but the marauder has two and the marines have one. So, yeah.

3) And why would you think that the thor would lose...?

4) I know, I was just saying that SC wasnt defenceless in that. Also, I was more focusing on the whole cloaking + psyker thing. I know the imperium has everything ghosts have, but not all in the same combatant.

5) If nothing else, I still say SC fleets are better. Reliable FTL travel, the battleships are large enough to go toe to toe with imperium ones (look at the cinematics if you dont believe me) and they have stealth fighters and stuff.

And if that isnt enough, I never neccesarily said Terran. I figure a zealot (giant body armor, shielding, AND dual wielding lightsaber-blade-thingies) could take on a space marine at close quarters. And imagine an immortal (they only take limited damage from attacks, yes? so a titan would be about as effective at killing them as a space marine. That has to count for something. And by 'something' I mean a helluva lot more than something.) You do realise that the yields Starcraft is putting out are insufficient to put it on par with 40K yields? You can't compare based on mere speculation, you have to calculate weapon yields and compare accurately, and let me tell you Starcraft space warfare considers tens of gigatons impressive... compare that to 40K space warfare where teratons are standard on medium-sized ships.

Also, "they only take limited damage from attacks, yes?" is game mechanics from the looks of it. You can't compare based on in-game evidence for Starcraft, the lore is just too different. And it's still inferior to 40K.