Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-25618639-20150807010020/@comment-46.239.238.68-20160203175555

I found another reference in Vengeful Spirit, chapter 2 (2014):





(Horus speaking)



"'The Emperor needed a starship to reach Molech, but didn’t need it to get back. Whatever He found there made Him into a god, or as near as makes no difference.'"





Whatever Horus means by this is open to interpretation. It's deliberately vague and ambiguous. Also, all of these quotes come from Horus himself, and by this time he has already been severely corrupted and  lied   to extensively by Daemons. I don´t know what exactly to infer from this, but I would go with the explanation that Horus is simply mad. What he was looking for on Molech will probably be revealed in later novels.



 Still, the idea of the Emperor getting his powers from the Chaos gods is seriously flawed in three ways:

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<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:17.15pt;background:rgb(243,243,243);"> 1. It's a major retcon that contradicts previous descriptions of the Emperor.

<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:17.15pt;background:rgb(243,243,243);"> 2. In every major edition and codex related thereto, the Emperor is supposed to be the benevolent savior of humanity. Chaos is described as being inherently evil and destructive (aka the Ruinous/Dark Powers). If the Emperor's powers are inherently evil, how can he be the benevolent savior of humanity? If that is the case, the Emperor himself and everything he stands for is just a sham. The same goes for the whole Imperium and the Space Marines he created, stretching all the way into the 41st millenium. To me, this is a major contradiction, both logically and lore-wise.

<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:17.15pt;background:rgb(243,243,243);"> 3. Why would the Chaos gods grant the Emperor such immense powers as to rival even their own? THAT makes no sense.

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<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;line-height:17.15pt;background:rgb(243,243,243);"> I recommend you check out this thread I started on Reddit and leave your thoughts there.

<p style="margin:0cm0cm0.0001pt;background:rgb(243,243,243);"> https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/43fc9c/did_the_emperor_get_his_powers_from_the_chaos_gods/