Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-211.26.90.118-20130803022053/@comment-203.134.114.231-20130817004707

Khorne flakes the eight wrote: 211.26.90.27 wrote: Shas'o'Kais wrote: Assault Marines are still faster than Hunters, and can easily get around its back and sever it through the exposed rear middle with a chainsword, or fire a Boltgun round into the exposed neck section and blow away its head. Or even stick a Melta Bomb on the shield and watch it get consumed in superheated gases.

Kroot are not like Jackals. Whilst physcially they appear similar in body shape, Kroot are as strong, if not stronger, than a Space Marine, are far more agile, have a decent pulse round gun, and are skilful with their staves. Going by what I've seen, a Brute's main tactic in close combat is to drop everything and charge right at you, which you can easily dodge and hit it in the back. Shas, Spacebattles agreed that the only way the Spacemarine could kill a Hunter is with Heavy armanents like Plasma Cannons and Lascannons. The Bolters have already been agreed to bounce of the armor than actually penetrate. And a Spacemarine going melee is considered suicide, since even the spines of a Hunter could slice a human in half.

Also just to give you feats for Brutes.

-They could catch up to a SPARTAN running at full speed

-Completely stop a 3.5 ton vehicle at full speed

-lift up a SPARTAN even when pinned down with one hand

-SPARTANS who fought Brutes considered CQC with them as suicide

-Take could take an entire magazine clip of AR rifle rounds in the face, point-blank, until steam came out of the holes. And all it did was pissed it off. i'm sorry, does your assault rifle shoot miniature rockets? thought not.

Rockets that have the same affect as a modern 20/40mm Grenade? Seriously a bolter even with its AP advantages, is not going to penetrate Hunter Armor. This is why I stated that the spacemarine needs heavy anti-tank weapon such as a meltagun or Lascannon.

Furthermore how would you rate a Brute Shot? In my opnion they would be much more stronger then a bolter. While a single bolter round maybe a .75 calibre, the grenade from a Brute Shot is the size of Brute's fist, which is near the size of a water melon. The explosion of the Brute Shot is also more powerful then a standard bolt, instances include blowing apart a fully armored and shielded Spartan II in just 2 shots, as well as flipping a 3.5 ton vehicle into a sommersaught with a single grenade.