Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-3416287-20130528142310/@comment-5846164-20130604104525

actually they do. and i got proof! in the book helsreach wich is a space marine battle novel (Aaron dembski-bowden) wich cowers a battle betwen imps and orks. now i cant say to much if someone wants to read it. but in this discusion i can say that the black templars (the main guys in the book) have to fight a long and bloody war on the front lines with guardsmen and in it you get input on excatly how astartes and guardsmen will work from that chapter..


 * SPOILERS* it have points to the discusion but if you are going to read the book then i would advise you to not read down fruther :D

The salamanders arive later on and then they show their different operation style with guardsmen in much anger/confusion for the black templars even though they do personal sacrifce for the guardsmen every now and then. and wich also shows is that both theese chapters fight in the ditch with the guardsmen and bleed and die with them only one is more willing to help the little guy then the other. so if you want to see ideas about this discusion read the book, it shows great sides of this question.