Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-68.229.119.75-20161124160543/@comment-72.218.214.11-20161130233647

About this nonsense: Your first point is what, because the old ones eddled with the eldar and they meddled with the humans, they can repproduce together? Okay, we have had selective breeding on earth for millenia, that still oes not mean you can have an offspring of a horse and a shark. You actually say tht their genomes are not compatible (more chromosomes) in the first place... now what is the consequence of that... you wanna cut off chromosomes and then have a nonfunctioning zygote?

My point is not that the two can reproduce because they were both engineered by the old Ones, as if that is some criteria to judge whether or not they can. My point is that the Old Ones did engineer them and are capable of engineering to that degree and thus it can't be dismissed merely based upon them not being alike.

The Old Ones are capable of genetically engineering fungus into not only orks, but all the various different types of orks. Some are thought to be genetically programmed to understand and use technology. That isn't "selective breeding". Selective breeding doesn't create reptiles with 5 stage reproductive cycles, fictional genetic engineering does that. Thus, unless specifically stated otherwise, it is entirely possible that the zygote fragment produced in one of the Eldar reproductive stages could be engineered to function as a full zygote for humans. That is not violating real science any more than the rest of the 40k "science" and, by not explicitly answering otherwise, they have left it open for their own further exploration as well as that of their fans. That isn't an accident.

About this nonsense: 3. That is actually no argument at all. Every publication within a "universe" has to work within the strictures of said universe. Your "stroke of a pen" is only a thing that would work if you were an author who did not know the universe in the first place.

Yes, every publication has to work within the strictures of said universe. My "stroke of a pen" nullified your arguments without violating the strictures of said universe. They violated your erroneous conclusions.

About this: .The rest is heresy and damnation. Why do you think, the only ones who do meddle with genetic material for "progress" are followers of Chaos, which would also rule out Eldar anyway....

That is factually incorrect. Many heretiks deviate from the strictures of the Machine God without becoming followers of Chaos. The Logicians are a prime example. Also, those followers of Chaos who deviate would fall into the realm of those who would perform these actions. Two categories that would perform those actions.

About this: B) Humans are (in the IoM) seen as the pinnacle of everything, it is a "sacred" form. The IoM kills off aberrants, mutants and the likes.

Some do see it that way within the IoM and some do not. Some want to improve the form of humans. Even the Adeptus Mechanicus tried to improve the Emperor's work by trying to improve the geneseed of the space marines- see the Cursed 21st Founding.

This: And that is not even getting into the problems of: Eldar not being mammalian (as far as research shows, their ancestors are not really ot be found anywhere) or the difference of heart rate, and so on, or their psyychic potential, the whole species is psychic and prone to excesses, you think for one moment that having instable psykers would be no feast for chaos..

---is nothing more than a meaningless distraction from the points being made. It is almost as if logic seen through a particular set of eyes (those belonging to Neithan02) is the only sort of logic that would motivate any characters to act in a setting that was built upon by making bad decisions.

The condescension is getting old.