Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-26165786-20150304163255/@comment-25869775-20150422025016

Callum. I disagree Dorn was not Warmaster material, nor the bulk of the loyalists. 2nd point- Even if E didn't forgive them they still could have done damage to the real chaos marines. Which in the long run the gods wanted to salvage.

@ Pokemongeek66. You can like Vulkan of course and all that, he is solid in my book, but I have to disagree with you on some points. He was not a master strategist like Gulliman, Horus, and Jonson, nor a legendary fighter like Sanguinius, Russ, or Horus, nor a politician like Horus, Fulgrim, or Guilliman. Plus his legion was one of the smallest, this deprived him of having numerous and/or monumental victories that some of the others did, like Horus, or to wave influence over the Imperium like Guilliman, Horus, or heck Perturabo. *cough Horus.

He was a very moral character though and very loyal indeed like you said. I don't know if he'd win every battle to the death, I'm going to pull a Magnus on you and say the Red King could do it. Oh and just saying, Night Hunter may have killed him actually. In the end he used some sort of gauntlet or something.

"Best of the best", okay I won't totally burst your bubble, he was up there.