Board Thread:Warhammer 40k General Discussion/@comment-28917471-20131121172457/@comment-37.152.33.225-20131126162236

There definitely is something to Lorgar fighting one of his brothers and being conflicted etc and not able to give 100%, but considering he is meant to be one of the weakest Primarchs in terms of martial might, he actually does quite well, especially against Guilliman, who is supposed to be one of the strongest.

It would have been better if Lorgar had been saved by another traitor or used sorcery to prevent Guilliman from killing him, instead he actually holds his own and deals Guilliman a major blow. He has also survived an encounter by this point, with another supposedly superior Primarch Corax, so it seems his reputation of a preacher and sorceror is a little unfair.